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re: Confirmed: Braves Leaving Turner Field After 2016 Season
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:22 pm to CatFan81
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:22 pm to CatFan81
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Also... there starts the bitching about MARTA bringing in crime. You know... because the criminal element can't hop on CCT and get up there anyway.
I'm not breaking into a house and then waiting for the train...
Also, other cities have seen property value rise with light rail stations.
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:28 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Yeah, I know. That's what I find so ridiculous about Reed's notion that all of a sudden, the city of Atlanta is gonna take a fierce interest in that area once the Braves had enough and moved on. I'd always liked Kasim Reed, and still do for all that he has accomplished compared to his predecessors. But he looks foolish right now.
I agree 100% with this. I am not a democrat, but have not had a problem with him
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:58 pm to flyAU
Per the AJC, it sounds like the the Cobb Co. commission will vote on this deal. Looking at the current membership, the vote would be:
Lee - ?
Ott - Definite no
Goreham - Lean no
Birrell - ?
Cupid - Probably yes
My thought would be 3-2 against the deal, which would presumably put a wrench in the whole deal.
Lee - ?
Ott - Definite no
Goreham - Lean no
Birrell - ?
Cupid - Probably yes
My thought would be 3-2 against the deal, which would presumably put a wrench in the whole deal.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:06 pm to saltydawg
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:12 pm to Sophandros
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Lee says details of funding for the $672 million dollar stadium are still being “sewed up.”
But Lee declined to say exactly how much county taxpayer money will go toward the project.
"don't worry about 650 million in funding guys. just a minor detail" - Tim Lee
lol
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:18 pm to flyAU
Reed is better than Franklin and Campbell, but he's still problematic. He cares about his core almost exclusively, but he will work with Deal and businesses, which is good.
But, if you look at streetcars and the airport vendors, not much has changed as far as throwing good money and opportunities into stupid ideas. Same for investment the absolute worst part of the city which is rolled into the Falcons stadium deal.
But, if you look at streetcars and the airport vendors, not much has changed as far as throwing good money and opportunities into stupid ideas. Same for investment the absolute worst part of the city which is rolled into the Falcons stadium deal.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:28 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:43 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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There is a minimum distance required between major league teams and their minor league affiliates. Not sure what the exact distance is, but the Braves could not have moved to Doraville without also moving the Gwinnett Braves from Buford.
Comment under the article you posted.
Anyone know if this is true?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:44 pm to bayoubengal03
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Comment under the article you posted.
Anyone know if this is true?
Likely the case.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 1:57 pm to bayoubengal03
It appears, according to rule 52 it is 15 miles:
"No Major or Minor League Club may play its home games within the home territory or within 15 miles from the boundary of the home territory of any other Minor League Club, and no Minor League Club may play its home games within the home territory or within 15 miles of the home territory of any Major League Club, except pursuant to a grant of protected territory or an exception obtained in accordance with Rule 52(d). The territorial rights of Major League Clubs with respect to other Major League Clubs are governed by Rule 1 (Circuits) and by the Major League Constitution, and are not governed by this Rule 52. The territorial rights of Minor League Clubs with respect to other Minor League Clubs are also governed by the governing document of the Minor League Association to the extent that such governing document supplements this Rule 52."
I do know the original plan was to build the Gwinnett Braves stadium about 15 miles closer to Atlanta than it was, located near Jimmy Carter Blvd and I-85 for those familiar with the area but that was nixed by the Braves because of the close proximity to Turner Field.
"No Major or Minor League Club may play its home games within the home territory or within 15 miles from the boundary of the home territory of any other Minor League Club, and no Minor League Club may play its home games within the home territory or within 15 miles of the home territory of any Major League Club, except pursuant to a grant of protected territory or an exception obtained in accordance with Rule 52(d). The territorial rights of Major League Clubs with respect to other Major League Clubs are governed by Rule 1 (Circuits) and by the Major League Constitution, and are not governed by this Rule 52. The territorial rights of Minor League Clubs with respect to other Minor League Clubs are also governed by the governing document of the Minor League Association to the extent that such governing document supplements this Rule 52."
I do know the original plan was to build the Gwinnett Braves stadium about 15 miles closer to Atlanta than it was, located near Jimmy Carter Blvd and I-85 for those familiar with the area but that was nixed by the Braves because of the close proximity to Turner Field.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:03 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
I'm sure there is more to it, but moving from a true dump to kind of a boring dumpy area is not a great selling point for ATL. Doraville is just in a depressing part of town. That corridor would be harder to liven up.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:09 pm to Pettifogger
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Mayor: Present stadium will be demolished and “one of the largest developments for middle-class people that the city has ever had” will replace it.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:12 pm to saltydawg
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My thought would be 3-2 against the deal, which would presumably put a wrench in the whole deal.
I just can't imagine the cobb leaders voting down bringing a major league baseball team to their county... this is likely the biggest thing that will ever happen in Cobb Co.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:12 pm to Pettifogger
Doraville, while itself is not the prettiest place, sits right on top of Brookhaven and Buckhead. It's also just about as centered perfectly as you can get for access from the northern suburbs. GA400, I75, I85, PIB, Buford Highway, 285. Just so many thoroughfares that would ease traffic concerns. I think getting additional development in Doraville would be child's play compared to where it is now. I see your point about the surrounding area not being the prettiest, but that can be cleaned up. It's not a dangerous area though.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:13 pm to CatFan81
I've taken MARTA to games plenty of times, but I've always liked driving to the game and parking more.
Getting a shuttle back after the game isn't that hard really, but waiting on trains can take 20 minutes which is really annoying.
I don't know if I ever want to ride MARTA again after the UA/VT game at the Georgia Dome. No security, a huge mass of people, just begging for someone to get trampled.
Of course, then I decided to do the ampitheatre parking for game 2 against the Dodgers and that was a disaster. Took about 30 minutes to walk to where the shuttles were by the gray lot because of crowded corridors, then another hour and a half to wait on the shuttle to the parking lot.
I went to seven games last year so I'm not exactly the target audience, but I'd love to see area around the stadium improved.
Getting a shuttle back after the game isn't that hard really, but waiting on trains can take 20 minutes which is really annoying.
I don't know if I ever want to ride MARTA again after the UA/VT game at the Georgia Dome. No security, a huge mass of people, just begging for someone to get trampled.
Of course, then I decided to do the ampitheatre parking for game 2 against the Dodgers and that was a disaster. Took about 30 minutes to walk to where the shuttles were by the gray lot because of crowded corridors, then another hour and a half to wait on the shuttle to the parking lot.
I went to seven games last year so I'm not exactly the target audience, but I'd love to see area around the stadium improved.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:20 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
I agree the Doraville issue is skin deep. It is like Chamblee, not particularly dangerous, just not that appealing. It could be a blank page, but you'd be starting from scratch.
I also doubt anyone wanted to deal with DeKalb and the City of Doraville. Moreover, no offense to our Gwinnett folks, and Northern Gwinnett is excepted, but I wonder if the Braves just wanted to interact more with Cobb than Norcross/Duluth/Lville.
I live in town so I don't have much of a preference, though 75 is easier for me.
I also doubt anyone wanted to deal with DeKalb and the City of Doraville. Moreover, no offense to our Gwinnett folks, and Northern Gwinnett is excepted, but I wonder if the Braves just wanted to interact more with Cobb than Norcross/Duluth/Lville.
I live in town so I don't have much of a preference, though 75 is easier for me.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:21 pm to The White Lobster
Atlantan's love their cars, especially the suburbanites. Even if he we had a legit public transit system up 85/75 etc, I'm not sure how much it would be used by those that aren't currently using MARTA in some form or another.
This post was edited on 11/12/13 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:27 pm to hiltacular
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Atlantan's love their cars, especially the suburbanites. Even if he we had a legit public transit system up 85/75 etc, I'm not sure how much it would be used by those that are currently using MARTA.
Part of that is because of how long it takes to get from the top end Marta stops to midtown Atlanta. I could drive just as quick from Suwanee to the GA Dome, as it would take me to drive to the Doraville station, park my car, wait on a train, and sit through 45 minutes while the train stops 10 times, then get off and hop on another train for 1 stop. Just no reason for me to take Marta.
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:27 pm to Pettifogger
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but I wonder if the Braves just wanted to interact more with Cobb than Norcross/Duluth/Lville.
Isn't Cobb County the youth baseball mecca of America?
Posted on 11/12/13 at 2:33 pm to Golfer
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Isn't Cobb County the youth baseball mecca of America?
basically, I'm sure that will be a talking point whenever the Braves are nationally televised. Bobby Cox is building a world class complex up in Bartow County and then you have East Cobb's baseball complex.
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