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re: Columbus, OH becoming a Major League City?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:08 pm to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:08 pm to Buckeye Backer
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the reality is the NE Ohio is bleeding population at a staggering rate.
No it's not fwiw.
Cleveland proper is, but not the Metro.
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:22 pm to KosmoCramer
And Cleveland proper is the the verge of a period of growth. Downtown residency rates are at 98% and there will be 7 new buildings coming on line the next year.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:27 pm to TreyAnastasio
That may be true but when you go from 900k to under 400k then you obviously will have space to grow again.
The rust belt is working to reinvent itself and there is usable infrastructure available if these areas can find ways to retool.
The outlook isn't totally bleak, it's just changing shape.
Ohio and the rust belt will be fine and hopefully stronger after its reinvention.
The rust belt is working to reinvent itself and there is usable infrastructure available if these areas can find ways to retool.
The outlook isn't totally bleak, it's just changing shape.
Ohio and the rust belt will be fine and hopefully stronger after its reinvention.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:21 pm to KosmoCramer
I love how Ohio is dying even though it has a positive percentage of growth. It is one of the slowest growing states but people make it seem like it is hemorrhaging people and that is not the case
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:47 pm to SprintFun
Austin and Columbus both have two of the largest universities in the country. I think that plays a part in not having more pro teams more than anything.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:16 pm to Buckeye06
The only possibility Columbus has IMO is an NBA team. We already have an NBA-ready facility in Nationwide Arena. Both football and baseball in Cbus would need new stadiums built. There are also two Ohio NFL and MLB teams (NFL also has Indianapolis AND Pittsburgh as well. That's four teams within three hours of Cbus). Additionally, I can't see NFL ever happening due to Ohio State.
NBA's the only one that really makes sense. They could share Nationwide with the CBJ. There's also only one Ohio NBA team. But I still don't think it happens.
NBA's the only one that really makes sense. They could share Nationwide with the CBJ. There's also only one Ohio NBA team. But I still don't think it happens.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:19 pm to SprintFun
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I love how Ohio is dying even though it has a positive percentage of growth. It is one of the slowest growing states but people make it seem like it is hemorrhaging people and that is not the case
I think Michigan is the only state that has actually had a declining population since the 2000 census
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:25 pm to Buckeye06
You think the sport of baseball will end in fifty years?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:33 pm to Buckeye Backer
I'd like to hear how Cincinnati is a dying city?
The MSA has experienced positive population growth. The downtown area has received national acclaim for its revitalization. Cincinnati (10) is home to twice as many Fortune 500 companies as Columbus (5).
The MSA has experienced positive population growth. The downtown area has received national acclaim for its revitalization. Cincinnati (10) is home to twice as many Fortune 500 companies as Columbus (5).
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:35 pm to Buckeye Backer
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This is more to my point though. I think we need more cities like New Orleans, Oklahoma City and Green Bay, where fans are more attached to their team and follow them .
dude the Pels have a shite arse following.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:01 am to Buckeye Backer
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This is more to my point though. I think we need more cities like New Orleans, Oklahoma City and Green Bay, where fans are more attached to their team and follow them . Cities that have 4-5 pro teams lack devoted fans IMO. Adding a team in Seattle would give them 4 professional franchises. Too much imo!
give Omaha a team.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:32 am to paperstreet
Touching on this subject a little bit, the Columbus Clippers played the Durham Bulls last night on national tv on CBS Sports Network for Minor League game of the week. The announcers literally went on about an hour long love fest for Columbus, talking about how vibrant and energetic downtown Columbus was compared to "some cities not to far from here". They talked about how players love being in town because they know they will be playing in front of a packed house and how Columbus has become a major league city for the guys in the minors. Columbus looked beautiful on TV last night i must say...perfect night.
On the original subject, i too think that the only other pro sport that Columbus could get is the NBA...which is what Columbus wants. Hopefully the NBA expands or a franchise relocates sometime in the next 5-10 years.
On the original subject, i too think that the only other pro sport that Columbus could get is the NBA...which is what Columbus wants. Hopefully the NBA expands or a franchise relocates sometime in the next 5-10 years.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 6:34 am to paperstreet
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give Omaha a team.
I agree, i think Omaha would support that team well. Omaha is a growing city. Let the franchise and the city grow together.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:16 am to KosmoCramer
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No it's not fwiw.
Cleveland proper is, but not the Metro
Wrong... this is from yesterday and the current US Census info. Cleveland AND the metro are bleeding population. Cleveland's population will eventually become a problem for at least 1 of their 3 pro sports if they continue to lose population at the current rate. Its only a matter of time. Here is the link with statistics.
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This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 7:21 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 7:25 am to Buckeye Backer
Wrong? From your article.
And these are estimates not actual US Census data.
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The 10 largest cities in Greater Cleveland remained unchanged in their rankings, though each was estimated to lose at least some residents.
And these are estimates not actual US Census data.
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In the past, however, the annual estimates for cities have proven often not to be accurate, in part because the lack of available details below the county level.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 7:26 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 8:43 am to KosmoCramer
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Wrong? From your article
Not from my article, but Cleveland.com's article. Just look at that graph....thats a lot of minuses. Hey, i hope Cleveland can make a comeback, im rooting for them...im a Cleveland sports fan! Reality just paints a very different picture IMO.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 8:44 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:18 am to Buckeye Backer
This Wiki page lists the top MSAs though 381 and is more sortable than the census site, so assuming it's correct, Columbus-Marion-Zanesville is No. 32 with 1.97M, up 3.4 % from 2010, so yeah, it is growing.
Cinci is 28 (+1.08% from 2010) and Cleveland 29 (-.6). Cleveland is 1/3 MSA with decreasing population in the top 50 since 2010, along Detroit No.14 (-.03) and Buffalo No. 50 (-.12).
Largest with no big 4 team:
9. Riverside-Sand Bernardino
Largest with no teams in area at all:
31. Las Vegas
35. Austin-Round Rock
37. Virginia Beach
38. Providence
43. Louisville
44. Richmond
46. Hartford
49. Birmingham-Hoover
LINK
Anyway, you're not going to have 3 teams in any League within 250 miles of each other or 2 within 140 miles outside the eastern seaboard, California, or Chicago with massive populations.
Cinci is 28 (+1.08% from 2010) and Cleveland 29 (-.6). Cleveland is 1/3 MSA with decreasing population in the top 50 since 2010, along Detroit No.14 (-.03) and Buffalo No. 50 (-.12).
Largest with no big 4 team:
9. Riverside-Sand Bernardino
Largest with no teams in area at all:
31. Las Vegas
35. Austin-Round Rock
37. Virginia Beach
38. Providence
43. Louisville
44. Richmond
46. Hartford
49. Birmingham-Hoover
LINK
Anyway, you're not going to have 3 teams in any League within 250 miles of each other or 2 within 140 miles outside the eastern seaboard, California, or Chicago with massive populations.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 10:22 am
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