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re: College football must innovate as FBS attendance dips for sixth straight year
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:43 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 3/10/20 at 2:43 pm to WestCoastAg
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We get this thread all the time and the answer never changes. You cant. It just makes no sense for me to get bent over with prices in every single conceivable way to sit and die in 110° heat index weather to watch A&M play tarleton state when I could do all of that from the comfort of my place with a TV that gives me better views
This is the only correct answer.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:01 pm to Horsemeat
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Its almost like knowing 4 or 5 teams at the beginning of the year have a legitimate chance at playing for a national championship might hurt the bottom line.
lol
this has nothing to do with it. It's 100% because of cost as already mentioned. 10 years ago in the 2009 season our ticket for the OSU game in stillwater was $100, it was the first regular season game I'd ever seen with a triple digit price tag. Fast forward 10 short years to this past season and our away gmaes with VAnderbilt, Tennessee, Auburn, and GT were all in the triple digits. Auburn's was got damn $140, before ya know it they're gonna be charging us $200.
People are simply getting tired of paying out the arse for these games and are sitting home instead when they can chill out and watch on their big screen. Everything else is so, so much lower down the list. If it was a flat 40 bucks to go to any game the issues about parking, long TV timeouts, concession prices, etc would be forgotten.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:02 pm to Ssubba
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P5 only plays P5.
That wont help.
If P5 only play P5 the W/L records for nearly everyone will significantly drop. People are already so so on seeing two 7-4 teams play late in the year. Well if it was only P5 vs P5 a lot of those 7-4 teams will turn into 4-7 teams.
After a few years of seeing the have nots in the P5s with terrible records attendance will fall even faster and people will call for killings off games with the Miss States, Purdues, and Georiga Techs of the world.
The only thing that can somewhat mitigate waning interest is to open up the playoff to ALL conference winners and a few at large teams. The more people you give the chance to care about what happens to their teams the better it will be for the sport.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:21 pm to Feral
You do realize the NCAA & the universities do not control the weather?
Of all the legitimate complaints, not much can be done about this one.
*Move ooc games back on campus.
*Stop the price gouging
Worth saying these again.
Of all the legitimate complaints, not much can be done about this one.
*Move ooc games back on campus.
*Stop the price gouging
Worth saying these again.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:45 pm to Dr RC
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After a few years of seeing the have nots in the P5s with terrible records attendance will fall even faster and people will call for killings off games with the Miss States, Purdues, and Georiga Techs of the world.
I agree. College sports have always been built on tiers. Having tiers that play each other allows more teams to have success. Also, there are lots of G5 teams I'd be more excited to play than P5 teams. I think the problem with G5/FCS games is that they are now played at terrible times.
Before every game was on TV, if Alabama was playing North Texas the game's at 5 or 6 pm. Now that game is at 11 am in 100 degree weather with $4 water bottles.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:48 pm to kingbob
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They need a unique experience. I think they need to lean on what makes college football different from the NFL with more marching band music and less piped in music.
100%. The piped in music has gotten ridiculous. I'm the target age for that, and I find it extremely annoying.
In BDS, we pipe in music seemingly every play.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:49 pm to kingbob
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In addition, I think a lot of fbs schools in the cusa, sunbelt, and mac need to be kicked back down to fcs
Agree with this. I can think of about 30 schools that need to drop down.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:59 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Before every game was on TV, if Alabama was playing North Texas the game's at 5 or 6 pm. Now that game is at 11 am in 100 degree weather with $4 water bottles.
This is the big one. I'm old enough to remember when every game time was set before the season started. Now you can get as little as a week notice and if it's not a "big" game your arse is going to be out int eh middle of the worst heat at 11am.
Way back then the games were usually mid day to 6 pm so you could live as far as 3 hours away and still be fine driving in and back home in the same day more often than not. Even the games that were on TV limited commercials enough that you were hardly ever at the stadium for more than 2 and a half to 3 hours.
But an 11 Am or 7pm TV games in this era? Nobody wants to get up at 6am to leave by 7 so you can drive 3 hours and get to the stadium an hour ahead of time and nobody wants to drive those same 3 hours back after a game ends around 10:30-11pm b/c of all the fricking commercials.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:04 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Except that half of the G5 is no different than the bottom third to half of the P5.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:05 pm to VADawg
I would kick out all of the following at minimum:
Florida Atl
Western Kentucky
Charlotte
Middle Tennessee
Florida Int
Old Dominion
North Texas
UTSA
Liberty
New Mexico St
Miami (Ohio)
Ohio
Kent State
Buffalo
Bowling Green
Akron
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Ball State
Northern Illinois
Toledo
San Jose St
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Coastal Carolina
Arkansas St
ULM
Texas State
South Alabama
Utah St
Florida Atl
Western Kentucky
Charlotte
Middle Tennessee
Florida Int
Old Dominion
North Texas
UTSA
Liberty
New Mexico St
Miami (Ohio)
Ohio
Kent State
Buffalo
Bowling Green
Akron
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Ball State
Northern Illinois
Toledo
San Jose St
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
Coastal Carolina
Arkansas St
ULM
Texas State
South Alabama
Utah St
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:21 pm to TigerNOLAGirl
quote:
You do realize the NCAA & the universities do not control the weather?
Of all the legitimate complaints, not much can be done about this one.
Wrong. Scheduling an 11am game in the Southeast in August or September is a shitty idea, and schools could stop doing it.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:37 pm to Buckeye06
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Again I'll ask this, which team who has made the playoff has had another team more deserving? Maybe Bama in 2017 but that was a year where OSU was a conference champ with 2 losses.
I can see why this type of conversation will be pointless with a fan of one of the teams that is "never out of it".
No disrespect to you, but I don't want to debate who deserves what in what specific year.
My point stands that there are a group of programs that are always in the "big games", yet if said program loses "big game", then the media immediately runs to cover them and count their loss as a "quality loss" or "eye test" or whatever BS narrative is needed to keep them alive ALL YEAR.
Whereas the 110 other teams know their standards are different. Those teams can't finish third in their conference or NOT go undefeated to be in the "maybe" talk.
Anyone who has been watching CFB for several years know who these teams are, and fans are tired of the double standard.
The same idiots in the media that wring their hands over lower attendance are also creating this problem. It really is funny to watch.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:40 pm to RLDSC FAN
1) Make the P5 go to 12 schools each and force them to play only each other in a round-robin schedule
2) Tell the networks that games have to be under a certain amount of time to cut down on commercials
3) Adjust pricing on everything
4) Dump millions into fixing parking situations. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.
2) Tell the networks that games have to be under a certain amount of time to cut down on commercials
3) Adjust pricing on everything
4) Dump millions into fixing parking situations. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:41 pm to RLDSC FAN
TV, TV, TV...
Ever since EVERY CFB game can be found on the dial, attendance has dropped year after year.
This isn't the 1980's where you'd get the Pac10 game of the week on ABC a late ESPN SEC game and a morning Big10 game.
CFB attendance is basically college students, old retired alums with money who travel around and people who never went to the school so they have to go to a gameday experience to pretend they did.
Ever since EVERY CFB game can be found on the dial, attendance has dropped year after year.
This isn't the 1980's where you'd get the Pac10 game of the week on ABC a late ESPN SEC game and a morning Big10 game.
CFB attendance is basically college students, old retired alums with money who travel around and people who never went to the school so they have to go to a gameday experience to pretend they did.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:43 pm to Rand AlThor
Should also be noted that some of these schools just have bad home schedules. For example, here is UTs this year
USF
UTEP
West Virginia
Baylor
Kansas
TCU
Iowa State
Who would pay the ridiculous fees and prices that come with season tickets for that garbage?
USF
UTEP
West Virginia
Baylor
Kansas
TCU
Iowa State
Who would pay the ridiculous fees and prices that come with season tickets for that garbage?
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 3/10/20 at 5:14 pm to WestCoastAg
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Should also be noted that some of these schools just have bad home schedules. For example, here is UTs this year
USF
UTEP
West Virginia
Baylor
Kansas
TCU
Iowa State
Who would pay the ridiculous fees and prices that come with season tickets for that garbage?
To add to that, we (Notre Dame) have on average the most expensive season ticket in the sport by far, and this was our home schedule this year:
New Mexico
Virginia
Bowling Green
USC
Virginia Tech
Navy
Boston College
And our administration wonders how our forty-something year sell out streak came to an end.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 5:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
Expand the playoffs. Many schools, LSU included, experience a huge dip in attendance as soon as a loss of two “eliminates” them from making the conf title game and playoffs. Expand to 24-32 and watch attendance rise.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 5:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
As a few folks have already mentioned TV is the main culprit. With high definition television, your own refrigerator and bathroom and central heat and air it's just more comfortable and much cheaper to watch from home
Posted on 3/10/20 at 6:23 pm to michael corleone
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