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re: College Football Is Done

Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:46 pm to
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price to play is only gonna go up over time and at some point the price per fan is gonna keep people out of the stadium long time season ticket holder and I'm not far from the tipping point a lot easier to stay home and watch on tv


This is basically where I am now.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7785 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:48 pm to
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Just take 50% of the head coach’s salary and split it amongst the players.


Best idea I’ve heard in a while.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13234 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:57 pm to
Regular fans priced out.

You're left with folks like me. Older, can afford it but don't give a crap. I'm not a great fan.

Might be necessary but its killing the product.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11101 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:58 pm to
The NFL has been getting a free ride with college football. The NFL is laughing at college football fans.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43172 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:23 pm to
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non-revenue sports will be discontinued.


Not necessarily. There are Title IX implications with this.

No matter how much money is lost, they're legally required to keep some sports so they stay compliant.
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5815 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:50 pm to
If this is being called revenue sharing and the fans are paying 10% towards it, are we saying that the fans are sharing their revenue with the players? I thought it was the schools that were supposed to be sharing revenue.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1254 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:12 am to
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The NFL has been getting a free ride with college football. The NFL is laughing at college football fans.



Easiest fans to screw over. Real life connections to the university.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108307 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:14 am to
Fans ahpuld also share in rhe revenue since the home crowd actually often impacts rhe perfoemance of rhe road team by being loud.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5147 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:20 am to
College Football as we knew it is done. With NIL, pay for play, and unrestricted transfers, it’s just the minor leagues. Don’t act like many of these guys are invested in the university, attending classes, and such.

I would immediately cancel season tickets if I were a fan.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20882 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:31 am to
I know this thread has been played out but this is a you and me problem. In capitalism, you have the freedom to spend your money where you would like. There’s no reason you have to continue watching or supporting college football. And why would we if it’s not the same product we attached to years ago?

To me, it’s getting to the point where I’m sitting on the sidelines paying for rich people to have fun on a yacht. Best amenities, great food and service, luxuries all around, high salaries and they’re asking me to throw in some money so the millionaires can keep having fun.

Just say no, y’all. Go do something else if this really bothers you.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63000 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:45 am to
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I know this thread has been played out but this is a you and me problem. In capitalism, you have the freedom to spend your money where you would like.


Of course.

But I liked pudding pops. I’d pay for pudding pops. But there are no puffing pops anymore. So, as a consumer, I’m disappointed.

That’s the issue here. The consumer isn’t getting what it wants. It’s like watching a sci-fi movie. It’s the suspension of disbelief. Fans pretend it’s the same as it used to be. And that will continue until it’s so far gone that people naturally won’t care.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:14 am to
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I firmly believe the players should get paid in some form
They have been getting paid (receiving benefits....scholarship, etc) for at least a century.

And no, they have not been basically modern day slaves this whole time as many clueless people seem to believe. (This last sentence is not directed at the poster that I'm responding to.)
Posted by MikeTheTiger11
Sip
Member since Sep 2023
789 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:58 am to
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And no, they have not been basically modern day slaves this whole time as many clueless people seem to believe.


I should've been more clear when I said "should be paid in some form". I think they should get compensated for jersey sales, NIL (for what it was actually intended), etc.

The reason people have been pissed for so long is because they could not actually hold a job like a normal student who was receiving TOPS or some other scholarship and not paying for school, and the school is making millions off of them. So they have no way to make extra money.

People refer to it as modern day slavery because the vast majority of D1 athletes (at least the sports that people care about) are black. Indentured servitude is probably a more apt term to use but doesn't make the previous situation any better.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73335 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:24 am to
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I agree women’s sports will see funding cuts. At least to whatever extent possible under Title IX - I think it’s still too early to assume that it only requires equal scholarships. Regardless, I would expect funding cuts for sure.

But non-revenue men’s sports will straight up get cancelled.

If there are fewer shcolarships for men than women, that wouldn't be compliant under Title IX. Title IX applies to both sexes equally. If cuts are made, they will be done equally for mens and womens sports. So I'd expect to see non revenue mens and womens sports cut.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12846 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:42 am to
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If there are fewer shcolarships for men than women, that wouldn't be compliant under Title IX. Title IX applies to both sexes equally. If cuts are made, they will be done equally for mens and womens sports. So I'd expect to see non revenue mens and womens sports cut.

I addressed this right after the part you quoted.

There are two things missing here:

1. All women’s sports are non-revenue. Despite the recent popularity increase of WBB, it still isn’t profitable. At least at LSU as of the last financial report.. although the waters are a bit muddy there because of how LSU reports SEC distributions and media rights, to be fair.

2. Scholarship limits are changing. Between football, baseball, and MBB, we will have 44.3 additional men’s scholarships available.

Here’s a chart mdomingue posted on the rant a while back:



Even if LSU cancelled men’s CC, golf, swim, tennis, and track, the total number of men’s scholarships available would still increase. If LSU wants to use all of those scholarships, it’s going to lessen the impact on women’s sports. Some will likely get shut down but I don’t think it’ll be as big of an impact.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
24454 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 6:23 pm to
This is NOT what NIL is or should be.

NIL is meant for somebody like Livy Dunn. Nobody gives a shite that she’s on the LSU gymnastic team. She is making NIL money irrespective of her choice of college. Further, LSU wasn’t paying a dime to Livvy Dunne to be on the gymnastics team.

School should not be involved in the NIL process in any way, shape, meaning, or form.
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