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Coaches not being completely truthful about coaching changes to recruits
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:21 pm
Kinda unethical, no? Positional coaching is where the real development and bonding happens between coaches and players. Brian Kelly lied to the parents of his QB recruit about him staying, he's gone and the parents are now pissed. Jim Mora keeping everything under wraps until signing day was over, and then the DC news came out. Now word is breaking that OSU's RB coach is bolting, and a stud RB they got yesterday is not happy and is saying that Urban wasn't being truthful.
It is Positional coaching that makes the kids better, and I'm pretty sure they don't appreciate this crap being kept under wraps until signing day is over.
No way BK, JM, or Urban weren't aware of imminent coaching changes on the positional level
It is Positional coaching that makes the kids better, and I'm pretty sure they don't appreciate this crap being kept under wraps until signing day is over.
No way BK, JM, or Urban weren't aware of imminent coaching changes on the positional level
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I think its kinda fricked up personally.
Not sure if its Level 10, but I probably wouldn't do it or like it happening to me.
Not sure if its Level 10, but I probably wouldn't do it or like it happening to me.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Stuff like this makes me wish these players had more flexibility, but at the same time, guys like Daylon Mack don't need more flexibility.
Perhaps there should be a couple of basic conditions when a player signs a letter of intent.
* Provided that my position coach is still here in August
Seems like a simple clause that isn't asking too much.
Perhaps there should be a couple of basic conditions when a player signs a letter of intent.
* Provided that my position coach is still here in August
Seems like a simple clause that isn't asking too much.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Picking a school solely based on a coach always has been and will continue to be poor decision making on these kid's part.
I feel terrible for them that they've basically been lied to, but they should be wary of this going in.
I feel terrible for them that they've basically been lied to, but they should be wary of this going in.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Mike Weber @mikeweber25
I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The Florida situation is crazy
Dude gets hired a month ago just to leave for an NFL job on signing day
Dude gets hired a month ago just to leave for an NFL job on signing day
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Players should be choosing a school, not a positional coach. The school should be the overriding factor in the decision. If that's the case, then any one coaching change shouldn't have a significant impact on the recruit.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:37 pm to RTR America
No one picks a school SOLELY bc of a coach but it's definitely a huge factor. You should know this man. You got nick Saban
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Commit to the school. Not a coach. Coach is never guaranteed to be there the 3 years the player is required to be. I know a relationship with a coach is a key factor in getting a player to a school but if a kid can't see himself at the school without the coach there, its probably not the right fit to begin with.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
First off, sour grapes that you didn't get Mike Weber.
Secondly, it obviously really sucks if the guy that really recruited you is leaving immediately before you get there but that's life. Ohio State will find someone just as good as Stan Drayton to coach the running backs.
It's not any more shady than a recruit being solidly committed to a school for months and then flipping on national signing day when there is no more recruits to fill that spot.
It's all a business. This kid will be fine.
Secondly, it obviously really sucks if the guy that really recruited you is leaving immediately before you get there but that's life. Ohio State will find someone just as good as Stan Drayton to coach the running backs.
It's not any more shady than a recruit being solidly committed to a school for months and then flipping on national signing day when there is no more recruits to fill that spot.
It's all a business. This kid will be fine.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:46 pm to Lsuhoohoo
If you can't beat them, cry.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:48 pm to Dr. Shultz
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No one picks a school SOLELY bc of a coach but it's definitely a huge factor. You should know this man. You got nick Saban
I mean I'm not opposed to them doing it
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:49 pm to RTR America
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Picking a school solely based on a coach always has been and will continue to be poor decision making on these kid's part.
I feel terrible for them that they've basically been lied to, but they should be wary of this going in.
^ what he said ... coaches are transitional ... schools aren't ...
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:49 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Let's say you are a safety and you llike two schools. Both have good teams constantly competing for championships and good academics. Both very close to home. You can't really decide between the 2 bc you like them both equally and you would basically have a chance of starting or getting a lot of PT your first year at either school.
One school has a DB coach who is a great recruiter and known as one of the best in CFB at getting kids ready to play and drafted in the NFL. One school is a solid defensive team but isn't known for having outstanding DBs but the DB coach seems like a cool guy.
Which school would you pick
Obviously picking a school over a coach shouldn't be the only factor, but it definitely plays a huge part in where one would choose to go
One school has a DB coach who is a great recruiter and known as one of the best in CFB at getting kids ready to play and drafted in the NFL. One school is a solid defensive team but isn't known for having outstanding DBs but the DB coach seems like a cool guy.
Which school would you pick
Obviously picking a school over a coach shouldn't be the only factor, but it definitely plays a huge part in where one would choose to go
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:50 pm to Dr. Shultz
Either one sounds like a winner.
That's a terrible hypothetical.
That's a terrible hypothetical.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:52 pm to KosmoCramer
Lol no it's not! If all things were equal besides one school having an elite DB coach and one school not you would obviously pick the school with the better coach! Let's be real
Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
what happens if a kid signs a LOI, school has a coaching change and he enrolls in a different school?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:03 pm to TigerintheNO
Once you sign you're in unless they release you.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Deliberately keeping coaching changes from players is horrible. People disagree but I think it's perfectly fine to choose a school because of a coach. I did it and it saved my career. I realize coaches can leave once you've started school(without it being fricked up) but that's just the nature of sports and the job world.
College football is development for the NFL for many players. Lying it them about coaching changes during recruitment is horrible.
College football is development for the NFL for many players. Lying it them about coaching changes during recruitment is horrible.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:28 pm to RTR America
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Picking a school solely based on a coach always has been and will continue to be poor decision making on these kid's part.
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