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re: Coach Fired for 100-0 Win
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:28 am to Palm Beach Tiger
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:28 am to Palm Beach Tiger
if I was coaching the team getting blown out, I would have insisted on a running time clock in the second half. If they wouldnt give me running time, I would have walked out.
frick that guy coaching the team trying to run up the score, sportsmanship should be a major part of HS athletics. If it isn't then what are you teaching the kids?
frick that guy coaching the team trying to run up the score, sportsmanship should be a major part of HS athletics. If it isn't then what are you teaching the kids?
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Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:29 am to tylercsbn9
I've coached basketball for about 15 yrs and I've seen some pretty lopsided scores especially in girls games. I know of certain boys schools where you would have lopsided games...something like 84-12 going into the 4th Q and the losing team would just hold the ball with the other team just staying in a zone the entire time...8 minutes of boredom but the point was made.
I heard that Covenant was running a full-ct and half-ct press the entire game and Dallas Academy was having a hard time to break it to say the least. I would like to see the video from the game to see what actually happened. Maybe the DA coach doesn't know how to break a press either in man or zone....and it probably didn't matter what they were running if you can't handle the ball. I would also think that with Covenant playing that aggressive that they would commit enough fouls to at least put DA on the FT line and maybe they did and DA just missed everyone of them.
With all that being said the Covenant coach unless he's fresh off the farm or has a vendetta against DA should have known better. Don't embarass the other team like that. Don't embarass your school like that. Respect the game better than that.
I heard that Covenant was running a full-ct and half-ct press the entire game and Dallas Academy was having a hard time to break it to say the least. I would like to see the video from the game to see what actually happened. Maybe the DA coach doesn't know how to break a press either in man or zone....and it probably didn't matter what they were running if you can't handle the ball. I would also think that with Covenant playing that aggressive that they would commit enough fouls to at least put DA on the FT line and maybe they did and DA just missed everyone of them.
With all that being said the Covenant coach unless he's fresh off the farm or has a vendetta against DA should have known better. Don't embarass the other team like that. Don't embarass your school like that. Respect the game better than that.
This post was edited on 1/26/09 at 8:31 am
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:32 am to Hott Sauce
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“We played the game as it was meant to be played. My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.”
I coached HS for 10 years and my values would have had me playing the bottom of my bench as soon as we got up by 25 and staying in a 2-3 zone inside the 3pt arch the entire game. frick that dude, he wanted the notoriety of winning 100-0 and he got it, both good and bad.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:37 am to supatigah
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frick that dude, he wanted the notoriety of winning 100-0 and he got it, both good and bad.
agreed
if I was refing that game, I would have made sure the other team went to the line as many times as needed to put points on the board. There would have been some ticky-tack fouls called in the 2nd half of the game
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:39 am to SPEEDY
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if I was refing that game, I would have made sure the other team went to the line as many times as needed to put points on the board. There would have been some ticky-tack fouls called in the 2nd half of the game
No doubt. They would have fouled enough to come out of that damn press at least. I would have called anything close.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:40 am to SPEEDY
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if I was refing that game, I would have made sure the other team went to the line as many times as needed to put points on the board. There would have been some ticky-tack fouls called in the 2nd half of the game
no doubt, especially since they were pressing. If I am reffing that game, go near the ball handler and we are headed to the line. I have seen some seriously sorry behavior in AAU games but I have never heard of a HS coach doing something like this. Even the Lisa Leslie 100 pt game wasn't this bad. frick that dude.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:43 am to supatigah
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especially since they were pressing. If I am reffing that game, go near the ball handler and we are headed to the line.
yep...and if the coach said ONE fricking word about it, i'm Teeing his arse up and daring him to say anything else because I would run his arse
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:45 am to supatigah
The only person who should have been fired in this case was the AD of the slower learning school, for A)scheduling a game against this team and B)fielding a team to begin with. What does he expect to happen in a school with like 20 girls total that is for kids with learning disabilities. IMO opinion he's just setting his team up to get destroyed. What is he/she trying to accomplish by having a team?
Posted on 1/26/09 at 8:51 am to TigerPhan27
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A)scheduling a game against this team
They are in a district under TAPPS (Texas Association for Private and Parochial Schools). The scheduling is automatic.
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B)fielding a team to begin with. What does he expect to happen in a school with like 20 girls total that is for kids with learning disabilities. IMO opinion he's just setting his team up to get destroyed. What is he/she trying to accomplish by having a team?
Allowing some kids who have some learning disabilities and probably have had trouble fitting in other schools an opportunity to have a normal school experience? To be part of a team? I've heard these kids talk since this game. Believe me, they aren't "destroyed".
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:00 am to tylercsbn9
it's not about pussification. These girls aren't going to the WNBA. What are you teaching kids by beating them to a pulp 100-0? You're not teaching them or your own girls a god damn thing
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:01 am to MStreetTiger
by destroyed, i mean losing 100-0. I would be interested to see what the scores of the other games have been. If they are in this district and have to play this team then ok that's fine, but again what is a school with only 22 girls doing with a team anyway, learning disabilities or not? There is pretty much no way they can compete. It's nice that they are allowing their students to play, but you should pretty much except to get blown out. What do these kids learn if every game they play the other team just holds the ball half the game? I'm just trying to wonder what they are trying to accomplish.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:03 am to LSUsmartass
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I wish I was the principle of some HS that was in need of a boys b-ball coach, I'd hire him and tell him don't change a fricking thing about the way he coaches the game
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:04 am to TigerPhan27
quote:it was a league game
A)scheduling a game against this team
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B)fielding a team to begin with.
why is it bad to give the girls a chance to play on a team and represent their school?
them being in the same league is sort of like Country Day and Ecole Classique being in the same district. Maguirre at CDS knows his team will destroy ECS both times they play them, so he either gets up 25 and lets his lesser kids play the rest of the game or he goes out of his way to annihilate them. Maguirre does the right thing, plays his young kids and keeps the score down.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:05 am to TigerPhan27
And it's not just this game, it seems that girls basketball in general has a lot of these type 70, 80 , 90, 100 point wins, college too. Do all these coaches get fired when they win? Perhaps someone needs to take a look as to what is going in women's baseketball in general and why do we have so many of these lopsided games.
Hell my cousin just took over Nicholls State women's basketball team and they haven't won yet and have had several losses of 60+ points, none of the coaches of those teams have been fired.
Hell my cousin just took over Nicholls State women's basketball team and they haven't won yet and have had several losses of 60+ points, none of the coaches of those teams have been fired.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:07 am to supatigah
"why is it bad to give the girls a chance to play on a team and represent their school?"
It's not, but expect to get blown out every game and not win a game for 4 years, and hey if you luck out and lose by 100 you can be on sportscenter and go to the Mavs game on Mark Cuban's dime
It's not, but expect to get blown out every game and not win a game for 4 years, and hey if you luck out and lose by 100 you can be on sportscenter and go to the Mavs game on Mark Cuban's dime
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:12 am to TigerPhan27
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There is pretty much no way they can compete.
they are out there to participate in a team sport and have fun.
In Louisiana we have the HS christian league that schools like that would play in. In Texas they have TAPPS and that is just a big mix of all of the private schools.
If we had TAPPS here it would be sort of like SCHEF of Slidell (the homeschooled kids) being in the same League as Reserve Christian. In the Christian League the SCHEF teams are not bad. If they played in the LHSAA and had to play RCS they would be destroyed.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:12 am to supatigah
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:14 am to TigerPhan27
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It's not, but expect to get blown out every game and not win a game for 4 years, and hey if you luck out and lose by 100 you can be on sportscenter and go to the Mavs game on Mark Cuban's dime
it was 59-0 at halftime, even still the losing girls didn't make that big of a deal out of it. What became a big deal was the winning coach acting like he didn't do anything wrong by trying to set a meaningless record at their over matched opponent's expense. He keeps talking about playing with dignity and honor, well he can take his dignity and honor and hit the unemployment line.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:14 am to Zamoro10
the line was set at 99 and a half, I didn't think they'd cover but boy did I get lucky.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:16 am to TigerPhan27
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Do all these coaches get fired when they win?
The coach posted over the weekend on a public website (identifying himself as the head coach of the school's basketball team) and stated that he disagreed with the decision of the board of directors of the school. By putting this disagreement in a public forum, and not keeping it internal, I'm assuming the school felt justified in firing him.
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