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re: Coach Fired for 100-0 Win
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:17 am to supatigah
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:17 am to supatigah
they are out there to participate in a team sport and have fun.
Well I hope they enjoy losing every game while getting the occasional blow out. I'm not sure watching the other team hold the ball for 2 quarters constitutes having fun, but I guess it could be.
Does anyone have a link to their previous scores in their current 4 year losing streak?
Well I hope they enjoy losing every game while getting the occasional blow out. I'm not sure watching the other team hold the ball for 2 quarters constitutes having fun, but I guess it could be.
Does anyone have a link to their previous scores in their current 4 year losing streak?
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Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:19 am to MStreetTiger
Well if he got fired for going on a public message board and calling out his employers that's fine. If he got fired for winning by 100 it's BS
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:19 am to Augustus
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I continued to sub in bench players, play zone defense, and run the clock for the rest of the game. We played fair and honorably within the rules and in the presence of the parents, coaches, and athletic directors for both Covenant School and Dallas Academy.
this statement contradicts media reports and frankly even playing 8min qtrs it would be very hard to get to 100 playing half court 2-3 defense.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:21 am to TigerPhan27
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Well I hope they enjoy losing every game while getting the occasional blow out. I'm not sure watching the other team hold the ball for 2 quarters constitutes having fun, but I guess it could be.
In 7th grade I was on a basketball team at a small private academy. Our record was probably 2-18. We got beat once by 80 points. In other words, we were horrible as basketball players. And, I wouldn't trade that experience of being part of a team with my friends, playing in front of a crowd for anything in the world.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:21 am to supatigah
The player said the same thing:
"When the article was first published I was furious; thinking in my mind that the guy who wrote it wasn’t even there. But as time went on, I started to get sick to my stomach every time someone brought it up. I was sick of talking about it and tired of all the negative publicity. The worst part of it all was that no one asked us how we felt or what we had to say. The school simply responded on our behalf saying that we are sorry and we are willing to forfeit. This was a high school district game in which we played solid defense that resulted in good offense. We were not playing at our full potential and I resent anyone who implies that we did. I missed a significant number of lay-ups and free-throws. We ran the clock and we slowed down our offense and took the press off in the 1st half of the 1st quarter, there was not much else that we could have done."
"When the article was first published I was furious; thinking in my mind that the guy who wrote it wasn’t even there. But as time went on, I started to get sick to my stomach every time someone brought it up. I was sick of talking about it and tired of all the negative publicity. The worst part of it all was that no one asked us how we felt or what we had to say. The school simply responded on our behalf saying that we are sorry and we are willing to forfeit. This was a high school district game in which we played solid defense that resulted in good offense. We were not playing at our full potential and I resent anyone who implies that we did. I missed a significant number of lay-ups and free-throws. We ran the clock and we slowed down our offense and took the press off in the 1st half of the 1st quarter, there was not much else that we could have done."
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:24 am to TigerPhan27
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Well I hope they enjoy losing every game while getting the occasional blow out. I'm not sure watching the other team hold the ball for 2 quarters constitutes having fun, but I guess it could be.
dude, you are trying to understand their thinking through your competitive eyes and it won't work. That is why the coach had to call off the dogs on his own, those girls were just out there to enjoy being part of a team. Clearly they know they are going to get beat, but 100-0 is a bit much
The coach got fired because the headmaster wanted him to apologize and his pride got in the way, so he refused. He was in control of that situation and he let it get out of hand. Then he wouldn't acknowledge that the 100-0 score was his fault.
There is an easy solution here. Up 59-0 at halftime you tell your girls if you get a steal, walk it up (no fast break), run your offense with 15 or so passes, take a shot and get back on defense. His girls kept getting steals and attacking the basket for layups. frick him.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:24 am to Augustus
Another thing I just realized, they only have 8 players so it's impossible to put all 2nd and 3rd stringers on the court. If they did in fact stop pressing, shooting 3's, and just playing zone the only options they had left was to hold the ball and both teams could pick their noses on the court for 16 minutes, or let the other team score. Neither option, to me, seems like it would be a good option for the losing team
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:25 am to MStreetTiger
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The Players. Rarely does a coach find a player who will run the extra laps, do the extra push-ups, or shoot the extra baskets without complaining. I have 8 such players—2 freshmen, a sophomore who is new to the school and team, another sophomore who has been with us for two years, two Juniors who have been with us for 3 years, a Senior who is new to the team and school, and another Junior who is new to basketball and is learning how to play for the first time in her life. My girls believe in each other, motivate each other, and see each other as family. The respect and admiration I have for them and their parents are the main reason why I come back to Covenant each year.
The Game. The game started like any other high school basketball game across the nation. The teams warm-up, coaches talk, the ball is tipped, and then the play begins. We started the game off with a full-court press. After 3 minutes into play, we had already reached a 25-0 lead. Like any rational thinking coach would do, I immediately stopped the full-court press, dropped into a 2-3 zone defense, and started subbing in my 3 bench players. This strategy continued for the rest of the game and allowed the Dallas Academy players to get the ball up the court for a chance to score. The second half started with a score of 59-0. Seeing that we would win by too wide of a margin, running down the clock was the only logical course of action left. Contrary to the articles, there were only a total of four 3-point baskets made; three in the first quarter, and only one in the third quarter. I continued to sub in bench players, play zone defense, and run the clock for the rest of the game. We played fair and honorably within the rules and in the presence of the parents, coaches, and athletic directors for both Covenant School and Dallas Academy.
Somebody is full of shite. Either the original story originator or this coach. If the coach is telling the truth here, I don't have a problem at all with what happened.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:28 am to TigerPhan27
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If they did in fact stop pressing, shooting 3's, and just playing zone the only options they had left was to hold the ball and both teams could pick their noses on the court for 16 minutes, or let the other team score.
I have been in this situation many times before and this is how we handled it.
You treat the blowout like practice, you tell your players if you get a steal to walk it up (no fast break), you run your basic offense with 15 or so passes, you call out a special play after the 15 or so passes, you take a shot and get back on defense. While on defense, you stay inside the 3pt arch and don't pressure the ball on the perimeter.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:31 am to supatigah
"but 100-0 is a bit much"
Pick up an advocate, or probably any paper from across the nation on any given day and you'll see an 80+ point blow out in a girls high school basketball evey day. For some reason a guy in the Dallas newpaper decided this particular game was worth a story, which then blew up this non story, the coach defended himself and got fired.
To me something is not set up right in girls high school basketball if we see these blowouts on a daily basis. I don't follow or care about high school sports so I plead ignorance to why it is that these blow outs happen everyday but it seems something is amiss
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:37 am to TigerPhan27
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seems something is amiss
agreed
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:40 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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Somebody is full of shite. Either the original story originator or this coach. If the coach is telling the truth here, I don't have a problem at all with what happened.
I tend to side with the coach and players who were there as opposed to the writer that wasn't.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:49 am to Augustus
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I tend to side with the coach and players who were there as opposed to the writer that wasn't.
This just doesn't seem possible.
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After 3 minutes into play, we had already reached a 25-0 lead.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 9:59 am to Palm Beach Tiger
Here is a box score from a Texas Girls HS game the week before:
LINK
90-10, why wasn't there national outrage at this? is it because it didn't contain the magic numbers of 100 and/or 0? They still won by 80 and put a good number of points up in the 4th
LINK
90-10, why wasn't there national outrage at this? is it because it didn't contain the magic numbers of 100 and/or 0? They still won by 80 and put a good number of points up in the 4th
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:02 am to TigerPhan27
He got fired because his boss told him to do something and he refused. Pretty cut and dried there imho
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:02 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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This just doesn't seem possible.
My friend I've seen enough shitty girls high school basketball to tell you without hesitation that it is possible. Some teams I've seen can't even dribble.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:06 am to supatigah
Like I said I'm ok with him getting fired for the public disagreement with his boss, i'm not ok for the national meida cherry picking this game out of the daily 80+ point blowouts that happen every day in girls basketball. I'm not ok with people acting like this is the 1st time this has happened, and i'm not ok with a system that allows 80+ point blowouts to happen on a regular basis.
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:12 am to TigerPhan27
sure, I understand and I agree
I spelled out an easy way to prevent such large blowouts, but some people are assholes
I spelled out an easy way to prevent such large blowouts, but some people are assholes
Posted on 1/26/09 at 10:13 am to MStreetTiger
Gotta love these "humanitarian" posters.
This post was edited on 1/26/09 at 10:15 am
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