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re: Clayton Kershaws Average Outing in the Playoffs
Posted on 10/24/18 at 3:59 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 10/24/18 at 3:59 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:The fact Kershaw has a lower WHIP than Maddux, yet an ERA of almost 1.5 more, shows something maybe amiss there
And he is still letting fewer runners on base and striking out more and walking fewer. Ie, things that usually play out over a 162 game sample size but usually dont in three or four starts where the innate randomness of baseball can frick you
A WHIP of 1.097 just doesnt correlate with an ERA over 4
Lester hates me and playoff Kershaw, so I would like to see his take on that
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 4:00 pm
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:00 pm to lsupride87
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Do you have a calculator for this?
I don't, found an article. Same article said that Maddux put together the best 120 inning stretch in Postseason history. Kind of a weird sample size though.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:04 pm to lsupride87
Neither does his steikepit and walk rates. He literally is the same or slightly worse in every single important statistic that suggests true performance or performance that we can use to predict future performance
The only true legitimate stat that he takes a real hit on is homeruns. But even then, he shouldnt be dealing with the ERA that he has when he still has dome everything else so well
The only true legitimate stat that he takes a real hit on is homeruns. But even then, he shouldnt be dealing with the ERA that he has when he still has dome everything else so well
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:06 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:why did you have to go full retard after a very concise OP that made a good case using actual data?
You forgot the 9-9 W-L record
It's obvious that he dominates inferior teams but when going against good players, he's below average.
Same said about his WS competition, especially in American league parks.
He's basically the most overrated "dominate" pitcher I can remember.
He's also going to play his entire career in the NL (which vastly skews numbers in his favor).
I'll take Curt Schilling in a blink before Kershaw.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:06 pm to WestCoastAg
Kershaws overall playoff resume when his peripherals are still pretty damn good is the single biggest signal to me that the playoffs are completely and totally random with no real rhyme or reason
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:07 pm to WestCoastAg
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its like the playoffs are totally a crapshoot
I mean 140 plus innings is a decent sample size.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:09 pm to Jcorye1
I dont have much faith in 140 innings over like 8 years. Those are 8 separate small sample sizes imo, and once again, the majority of the numbers that we think are better indicators of true performance still suggest hes pitching ok over those 140 innings
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:23 pm to WestCoastAg
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steikepit
Is this an autocorrect? Some kind of weird, German dungeon porn?
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:24 pm to High C
Yes to both
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:32 pm to WestCoastAg
The lengths people will go to make excuses for Kershaw is hilarious. When we rank pitchers all time Bumgarner will rightfully be ranked above Kershaw as the best of this era
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:33 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:and yet I'm the one people act like has the crazy opinion
When we rank pitchers all time Bumgarner will rightfully be ranked above Kershaw as the best of this era
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:33 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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The lengths Westcoasag will go to make excuses for Kershaw is hilarious.
Fixed.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:35 pm to Zappas Stache
And here we go. People on here only remember when I dont agree with the idea that Kershaw isnt "clutch" and "bad" in the playoffs but magically forget all the times I call him inconsistent, not as good as he is during the season, or put a whole lot of the blame of last years world series on him
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:42 pm to Bench McElroy
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2.33 ERA (lower than career ERA), 0.97 WHIP (lower than career WHIP), 9.7 SO/9, 4.38 SO/Walk Ratio
Kershaw's career numbers in interleague
17-4, 2.14 ERA, 0.93 WHIP, 9.8 SO/9, 4.91 SO/Walk Ratio (All better numbers than his career stats)
What is this, some kind of commie gobbeldy-asian?
Write something that doesn't try to dispel what everyone's eyes have seen for a decade. He cracks in big spots...
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:54 pm to Jack Ruby
Your eyes lie. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you’ll stop embarrassing yourself on the internet
Posted on 10/24/18 at 4:56 pm to WestCoastAg
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People on here only remember when I dont agree with the idea that Kershaw isnt "clutch" and "bad" in the playoffs but magically forget all the times I call him inconsistent, not as good as he is during the season, or put a whole lot of the blame of last years world series on him
We are well aware of your schizophrenia which is why we are nice to you.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:15 pm to WestCoastAg
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He absolutely is inconsistent,
sounds like you agree he's a choker in the playoffs and it's arguing semantics every playoff season
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:19 pm to High C
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Secondary stuff lacked location and didn't have a lot of movement
That strike zone last was the size of a nat.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:28 pm to AlexTheGreat
Kershaw is the Drew Brees of the MLB. Chokes when the pressure is on.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:54 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
and yet I'm the one people act like have the crazy opinion
Isn't the goal to win the WS? There are very few scenarios where Kershaws GOAT level RS production over Madbums allstar level production is the difference in making the playoffs especially in the new playoffs system. But Madbums GOAT level playoff production vs Kershaws poor playoff production is going to make an enormous difference
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