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re: CFP Director Bill Hancock: CFB Playoff expansion is not in the cards, need unanimous vote
Posted on 1/6/18 at 3:23 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 1/6/18 at 3:23 am to Bench McElroy
WOOOOOOOOO
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 4:00 am to The Quiet One
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I do wonder if FSU hadn't shite the bed and was a top 5-10 team, does this whole conference championships matter bitchfest exist? Alabama played FSU...it's not like they scheduled North Texas in week 1 to duck competition.
Good point. That game was MUCH ballyhooed. Hell, had FSU held on vs. undefeated Miami earlier in the year people would have viewed the Bama win a little differently.
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 5:27 am to IAmReality
It’s not apples to apples and you know it.
How many top 10 road wins did Bama have this year? How many top 10 games did they even play?
Of course losses matter so I’m not saying 100% OSU should have been in but look at Hancock’s comments before conference title week and after and they just don’t jive
How many top 10 road wins did Bama have this year? How many top 10 games did they even play?
Of course losses matter so I’m not saying 100% OSU should have been in but look at Hancock’s comments before conference title week and after and they just don’t jive
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:09 am to buckeye_vol
The subjectivity is too necessary.
They had to postulate Bama with healthy linebackers.
Love your post man.
I got "Unfashionable play-off."
I typed "unfalsifiable post-hoc."
My phone knows.
They had to postulate Bama with healthy linebackers.
Love your post man.
I got "Unfashionable play-off."
I typed "unfalsifiable post-hoc."
My phone knows.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:09 am to Klendathu
quote:well it is obvious that those "top 10" wins were shams. You got rolled, bruh
Wrong, OSU had 3 top 10 wins last year. The strong resume is why the same questions weren't asked. If Alabama would have played a better schedule most of it would have calmed down by now.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:37 am to TbirdSpur2010
Alabama knocked out Florida state qb star.
That's what they do.
Fsu played rest of season with not great backup
If fsu plays Bama game 11, no one would question Bama.
And Ohio state was massacred in play-off last year after jumping state Penn. That could not be erased. Slaughtered.
That's what they do.
Fsu played rest of season with not great backup
If fsu plays Bama game 11, no one would question Bama.
And Ohio state was massacred in play-off last year after jumping state Penn. That could not be erased. Slaughtered.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 7:56 am to CelticDog
That guy will change his tune once the ratings for this consolation championship on Monday come in. It's gonna be bad.
They are going to be that stubborn to stick with this farce until 2025? They are going to drive the sport right into the dumpster.
They are going to be that stubborn to stick with this farce until 2025? They are going to drive the sport right into the dumpster.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:19 am to dcrews
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OSU had 3 top 10 wins last year.
This is the issue I have. You guys want credit for those wins, but when you lose those games, you just want a pass on the loss because "well, we scheduled a tough team".
You can't claim the credit for beating a top team, but then turn around and just expect a mulligan for losing to one.
Not to mention the arse drubbing Iowa gave you guys. You win that game, you're in.
Losses matter.
I was clearly talking about last year, not this year. And last year Penn State has 2 losses, Ohio State had 1. So i guess losses mattered then too. It was unbelievable that people couldn't realize that those better wins and a better single loss (compared to 2 worse losses) is why Ohio State got in over Penn State. I don't know why people aren't arguing for Auburn like they did Penn State if you really believe head to head should override everything else.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:39 am to IAmReality
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They just played the #1 team in the country and dominated them for 4 quarters.
That should put to bed any debate about whether the committee "got it right"
The outrage exists solely because people are sick of Alabama and this is Alabama's 3rd straight championship game.
Not in the regular season. Based on Alabama's regular season you cannot at say with any credibility that they should be in the playoffs. Their signature wins are over LSU and Miss St. Their only claim to the title is a good loss to Auburn.
This precedent will just tell name brand teams they should avoid hard games at all costs. They can destroy the cupcakes and with a close loss they can get into the playoffs.
Alabama is a dominant and with enough time they can beat anyone, but why do they get a mulligan on the regular season? They got rewarded for losing to Auburn and avoiding playing UGA in the SECCG? They got longer rest and not risk getting any of their players injured.
This debate revolves around if you think the "best" four teams should go or the "most deserving" four teams should go.
If it's the best 4 then why even have a regular season. You can just pick based on the eye test.
A team should have to earn it's way into the playoffs through their schedule. Beat good teams and minimize losses.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:40 am to ctalati32
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A team should have to earn it's way into the playoffs through their schedule. Beat good teams and minimize losses.
Yep.
But as we see, it's not about earning it on the field in the regular season.
It's about money and big name schools.
UCF 2017 National Champions
Posted on 1/6/18 at 8:59 am to ctalati32
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A team should have to earn it's way into the playoffs through their schedule. Beat good teams and minimize losses.
I agree 100%. The problem is you don't always know how good other teams you play will be before the year starts. FSU Auburn and LSU could all easily have been top 10 teams all year but FSU lost their QB and their D was questionable all year and LSU lost to Troy and by 30 to MSU.
You don't know how good your schedule will be til it's too late to change it often
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:13 am to ctalati32
I've been saying for years that there are Tiers in CFB when it comes to actual rankings. Three tiers, to be exact.
Tier 1 - Blue Bloods - OSU, Bama, Michigan, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Miami (soon) to name a few. These teams just have to be "good enough" to be considered for a playoff run.
Tier 2 - P5 Decent Brand teams that will have to meet all the standards to make a playoff: Go 11-1 or 10-2, win the conference, then you "may" get a shot at the playoff. Penn State, LSU, UGA, Clemson, etc..
Tier 3 - Schools not in P5, and lowest tier P5 schools..
Once you firmly establish in your thick skull that the Tier 1 schools have a different standard, it makes these arguments/threads easy.
For example, in this thread, you see a pissing contest with OSU and Bama fans only. Notice fans of teams like Penn State, etc, know better when they have two losses or don't win the conference.
This is what CFB is and always will be. If you can't grasp it, then you can't enjoy it.
Tier 1 - Blue Bloods - OSU, Bama, Michigan, Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Miami (soon) to name a few. These teams just have to be "good enough" to be considered for a playoff run.
Tier 2 - P5 Decent Brand teams that will have to meet all the standards to make a playoff: Go 11-1 or 10-2, win the conference, then you "may" get a shot at the playoff. Penn State, LSU, UGA, Clemson, etc..
Tier 3 - Schools not in P5, and lowest tier P5 schools..
Once you firmly establish in your thick skull that the Tier 1 schools have a different standard, it makes these arguments/threads easy.
For example, in this thread, you see a pissing contest with OSU and Bama fans only. Notice fans of teams like Penn State, etc, know better when they have two losses or don't win the conference.
This is what CFB is and always will be. If you can't grasp it, then you can't enjoy it.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:26 am to IAmReality
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Losing by 31 points to ANYBODY should disqualify
So should losing by 23 but look what we have in the championship game.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:31 am to EZE Tiger Fan
While I agree with what you say there's also another factor. Some teams recruit and coach at a higher level.
The Blue Chip Factor
Let's be honest. Out of 121 FBS teams there are maybe ten that have a legitimate shot at the playoffs and a berth in the championship. There may be an outlier here or there but over time the same cream rises to the top.
The Blue Chip Factor
Let's be honest. Out of 121 FBS teams there are maybe ten that have a legitimate shot at the playoffs and a berth in the championship. There may be an outlier here or there but over time the same cream rises to the top.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:41 am to SoDakHawk
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That guy will change his tune once the ratings for this consolation championship on Monday come in. It's gonna be bad.
Why?
It's not like they willed UGA over Oklahoma or Bama over Clemson. Those games happened. Not much you can do about that, except Choklahoma and Clemsoning are back.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:45 am to The Quiet One
Losing to Nick Saban is now Clemsoning? 
Sign everyone else up
Sign everyone else up
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:55 am to buckeye_vol
so Hancock is the sole decision maker. Really? I thought there was a committee of around 13
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:57 am to Buckeye06
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You don't know how good your schedule will be til it's too late to change it often
Agreed and I think this is a bigger factor than people let on.
Scheduling a team that has been a factor nationally like FSU does matter, regardless whether FSU turns out to be great that given year or not. They deserve credit for at least playing the game and I think they get more credit for that win over FSU than the simple numbers game people are using as their metric for who deserved to be in the playoff.
Wisconsin played USU, FAU, and BYU. Not awful teams (well BYU blows), but nothing really to hang your hat on. Alabama's game against FSU stands out like a sore thumb even though FSU turned out to be crappy.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:13 am to VABuckeye
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While I agree with what you say there's also another factor. Some teams recruit and coach at a higher level.
and plenty of players across the nation see their star rating rise simply b/c a blue blood school comes sniffing around.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:30 pm to The Quiet One
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Why?
It's not like they willed UGA over Oklahoma or Bama over Clemson. Those games happened. Not much you can do about that, except Choklahoma and Clemsoning are back.
You think any of that matters? People aren't going to watch. Northeast, Midwest, Mountain and West, we've all tuned out.
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