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CFP Director Bill Hancock: CFB Playoff expansion is not in the cards, need unanimous vote
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:49 pm
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Big Ten champion Ohio State was left out of the College Football Playoff. UCF is the only undefeated team left in the FBS after winning the Chick-Fil-A Bowl against Auburn. Alabama, which didn't win the Iron Bowl or the SEC West, faces Georgia in an all-SEC College Football Playoff championship game on Monday at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta.
Despite all that, the four-team playoff is here to stay until at least 2025, which is when the current 12-year agreement expires.
It would take a unanimous vote from all the conferences for that kind of movement to start," Hancock told a group or reporters at the Atlanta Sheraton Hotel on Friday. "Right now, that's not in the cards."
Hancock touched on that and a multitude of other topics as the fourth year of the College Football Playoff cycle gets set to conclude with Alabama vs. Georgia. Hancock hit the Alabama-Ohio State debate again and maintained that the bowl season – in which the Big Ten finished 7-1 – did not lead to any second-guessing of that decision. One factor that resonated with the committee was the Buckeyes' 55-24 loss at Iowa on Nov. 4.
"The Iowa game was puzzling to the committee," he said. "It was hard for everyone to figure out."
Hancock, who was the director of the NCAA men's basketball tournament for 13 years, also does not see any regional bias with the championship game, which he said was the result of a "four-team tournament." He compared it to Duke-North Carolina in men's basketball and also answered the question of whether Alabama's bid diminished the regular season.
"That's a fair question," Hancock said. "Alabama lost its margin for error when it lost. They needed help, as we all would say, and they got that help. … The committee felt strongly that they were the better team."
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 11:59 pm to Bench McElroy
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also answered the question of whether Alabama's bid diminished the regular season.
Where the frick were all these questions last year when Ohio State got in?
There was like 1/100th the level of outrage at them making it in the EXACT SAME SITUATION last year. Only their's was even worse, they got in INSTEAD of their own conference's champion.
On top of that, they proceeded to get humiliated in the semi's, just cementing the notion they didn't belong.
Alabama went out and just rolled the #1 seed with ease.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:09 am to IAmReality
People just don’t want BAMA in. It’s pretty obvious the public is tired of them winning.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:10 am to IAmReality
It's jealousy. Look how ESPN is going after the Patriots. Losers hate winners and will bitch and cry until they get their way.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:18 am to Bench McElroy
quote:
The four-team playoff is here to stay until at least 2025, which is when the current 12-year agreement expires.
It would take a unanimous vote from all the conferences for that kind of movement to start
game over/
no way the Big Ten would be that shortsighted or the SEC be that stupid
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:19 am to IAmReality
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EXACT SAME SITUATION last year
Wrong, OSU had 3 top 10 wins last year. The strong resume is why the same questions weren't asked. If Alabama would have played a better schedule most of it would have calmed down by now.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:32 am to Bench McElroy
frick the sec
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:48 am to Bench McElroy
Frankly, the main problem isn’t that there are only 4 teams or that Alabama got in, it’s the unnecessary level of subjectivity of the process, especially when hypocrites like Hancock—who argued against a playoff for years—are the sole decision-makers.
If his own contradictions can be ignore, and there is no accountability whatsoever with no objective standard to justify decisions, then they will always be able to have some unfalsifiable and abstract post-hoc justification for whatever decision they make.
If his own contradictions can be ignore, and there is no accountability whatsoever with no objective standard to justify decisions, then they will always be able to have some unfalsifiable and abstract post-hoc justification for whatever decision they make.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:57 am to Klendathu
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OSU had 3 top 10 wins last year.
This is the issue I have. You guys want credit for those wins, but when you lose those games, you just want a pass on the loss because "well, we scheduled a tough team".
You can't claim the credit for beating a top team, but then turn around and just expect a mulligan for losing to one.
Not to mention the arse drubbing Iowa gave you guys. You win that game, you're in.
Losses matter.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:00 am to Klendathu
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If Alabama would have played a better schedule most of it would have calmed down by now.
They just played the #1 team in the country and dominated them for 4 quarters.
That should put to bed any debate about whether the committee "got it right"
The outrage exists solely because people are sick of Alabama and this is Alabama's 3rd straight championship game.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:03 am to dcrews
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Not to mention the arse drubbing Iowa gave you guys. You win that game, you're in.
Losses matter.
If Ohio State would have lost that game but it been competitive they still likely get in.
Losing by 31 points to ANYBODY should disqualify you from a 4 team playoff, but especially a 6-6 team.
Great teams trip up and lose games, great teams rarely get blown out, and no great teams sure as hell gets blown out by mediocre/poor teams.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:07 am to dcrews
quote:Yes. So the implication now is to create a schedule that minimizes the risk of losing. So instead of Oklahoma we could schedule a cupcake, then it's only 1 loss to a top 25ish Iowa team.
Losses matter.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:13 am to IAmReality
quote:That game happened before they chose playoff teams?
They just played the #1 team in the country and dominated them for 4 quarters.
Scruffy was not aware.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:29 am to Bench McElroy
All this salt because we ended up with another all SEC title game.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:31 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
Frankly, the main problem isn’t that there are only 4 teams or that Alabama got in, it’s the unnecessary level of subjectivity of the process, especially when hypocrites like Hancock—who argued against a playoff for years—are the sole decision-makers.
If his own contradictions can be ignore, and there is no accountability whatsoever with no objective standard to justify decisions, then they will always be able to have some unfalsifiable and abstract post-hoc justification for whatever decision they make.
Sounds a lot like the B1G commish...
2014: "Winning your conference matters."
2015-2016: "Winning your conference doesn't matter."
2017: "Winning your conference matters."
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:37 am to Korin
quote:Well I’m not sure about the “conference doesn’t matter” argument since it was between two teams in the Big 10.
Sounds a lot like the B1G commish...
2014: "Winning your conference matters."
2015-2016: "Winning your conference doesn't matter."
2017: "Winning your conference matters."
Regardless, you’re point still stands in that this process allows for the opposite arguments to be used as justification so there is choice is always right and never wrong when the standard only applies after the fact and when it’s convenient.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:12 am to Bench McElroy
they'll all come running in a couple years after we get a playoff that has 4 teams from just 2 conferences.
it's bound to happen.
it's bound to happen.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:42 am to TigersHuskers
But you are a fan of a team in the sec you dolt
Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:46 am to Bench McElroy
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Despite all that, the four-team playoff is here to stay until at least 2025, which is when the current 12-year agreement expires.
It would take a unanimous vote from all the conferences for that kind of movement to start," Hancock told a group or reporters at the Atlanta Sheraton Hotel on Friday. "Right now, that's not in the cards."
great.. I'm really looking forward to all of the threads talking about how great CFB is all season only to have peanut turd threads at the end of the season whining about the current system.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:50 am to Bench McElroy
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"The Iowa game was puzzling to the committee," he said. "It was hard for everyone to figure out."
Easy for the rest of us. It was a bloodbath. Wyoming gave Iowa a better game.
I do wonder if FSU hadn't shite the bed and was a top 5-10 team, does this whole conference championships matter bitchfest exist? Alabama played FSU...it's not like they scheduled North Texas in week 1 to duck competition.
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