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re: Caleb Williams Deal with Beats Headphones Reportedly Worth $2.5M in 2022
Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:54 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:54 pm to wildtigercat93
100 % agree with this.
There has to be some type of compensation outside of scholastic.
Now that that Pandora's Box has been opened, why couldn't the NFL, et. al with corporate backing, start a junior league and just annihilate the NCAA?
I don't think it would completely happen, but don't think when it comes to business, sharks won;t follow blood.
There are a lot of different lenses to look through in regards to how this will be monetized-- keyword-- over the coming years.
There has to be some type of compensation outside of scholastic.
Now that that Pandora's Box has been opened, why couldn't the NFL, et. al with corporate backing, start a junior league and just annihilate the NCAA?
I don't think it would completely happen, but don't think when it comes to business, sharks won;t follow blood.
There are a lot of different lenses to look through in regards to how this will be monetized-- keyword-- over the coming years.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:55 pm to Porkchop Express
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Now that that Pandora's Box has been opened, why couldn't the NFL, et. al with corporate backing, start a junior league and just annihilate the NCAA?
They could, they just have no incentive to. They already have a fully functioning one available to them for free
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:12 pm to Porkchop Express
Will never happen, but I hope college athletics as we now know it blows up and reverts back to glorified intramural levels.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:26 pm to Porkchop Express
Seems a lot for a shitty QB no one will know about.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:30 pm to wildtigercat93
Why I basically agree with your point-of-view, I will play devil's advocate.
Based on the ncaa having 501 tax-exempt status, there has been a monetary fulcrum for investment in "lower level" pro athletes (i.e. a free farm system).
Now that has been altered.
Basically every other country-- and most have a professional system of some sort in place for the sports popular within their culture-- you invest in people and they advance based on a minor-to-major league system (like MLB).
While I agree with you that major professional sports in America probably are not looking to capitalize on it right now (again playing devil's advocate), do you not think it is being discussed?
It's probably been discussed-- and perhaps part of the lobby to change the landscape recently-- for a long time.
The ncaa is becoming more archaic with the times.
Based on the ncaa having 501 tax-exempt status, there has been a monetary fulcrum for investment in "lower level" pro athletes (i.e. a free farm system).
Now that has been altered.
Basically every other country-- and most have a professional system of some sort in place for the sports popular within their culture-- you invest in people and they advance based on a minor-to-major league system (like MLB).
While I agree with you that major professional sports in America probably are not looking to capitalize on it right now (again playing devil's advocate), do you not think it is being discussed?
It's probably been discussed-- and perhaps part of the lobby to change the landscape recently-- for a long time.
The ncaa is becoming more archaic with the times.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:32 pm to Porkchop Express
Just wait until one of these hot shot freshmen gets a big deal and then under performs and gets benched or has playing time reduced. They will start bitching about the coaches hurting their marketability and cost them potential money. It’s going to happen sooner rather than later. How about that big mouth QB or RB who is full of himself and the OL decides to teach him some humility. That will happen also.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:33 pm to Porkchop Express
Not bad for a guy who got benched in the biggest game of his young career.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:33 pm to Porkchop Express
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It will be interesting to see how it changes the landscape.
It wont change anything.
USC has always had this. Alabama will always spend anything it takes. Ohio State has 11 million people in the state willing to pay with one of the largest expenditures in the world and Battelle Institute two blocks from the stadium.
Its the reason these teams were powers before.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:34 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Not if you can just bypass the ncaa.
That is what I was implying by a farm system.
That is what I was implying by a farm system.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:38 pm to Caraway Rye
I hope that is the case.
But it already has unfortunately.
And until some measures are in place to make it a level landscape, it will be the Wild West.
But it already has unfortunately.
And until some measures are in place to make it a level landscape, it will be the Wild West.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:42 pm to Porkchop Express
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Based on the ncaa having 501 tax-exempt status, there has been a monetary fulcrum for investment in "lower level" pro athletes (i.e. a free farm system).
Now that has been altered.
Not really tho. The schools status and structure didn’t really change. NIL is not actually tied to the schools technically.
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Basically every other country-- and most have a professional system of some sort in place for the sports popular within their culture-- you invest in people and they advance based on a minor-to-major league system (like MLB).
And everyone of those countries and leagues would love it if some organization decided to take on the headache of managing those league, keeping those players happy, and developing them into pro ready prospects. The minor leagues are a massive headache for the MLB. Most of those leagues operate at a big loss in order to help funnel developed talent to the bigger organizations. NFL already has a risk free and cost free version of that, which operates independently.
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While I agree with you that major professional sports in America probably are not looking to capitalize on it right now (again playing devil's advocate), do you not think it is being discussed?
You’re vastly underestimating the level of work, cost, and risk that would be involved in actually trying to overtake the NCAA in that space. Without the actual upside. Everything good for CFB gets funneled up as a positive for the NFL in one way or another, but if anything goes wrong (getting sued for not paying them, potential player unions in the future, managing this entire ecosystem of boasters/admin/coaches/ players) the NFL has no real skin in the game
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The ncaa is becoming more archaic with the times.
Definitely. And there will be a new version of the NCAA that eliminates the tie to the governing body of the colleges eventually. It just won’t be the NFLs doing, instead it’ll be a collection of the top schools doing it because they don’t want to foot the bill for the rest of the schools anymore
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:44 pm to Porkchop Express
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Caleb Williams Deal with Beats Headphones Reportedly Worth $2.5M in 2022
This unsourced image you shared is the only place i've seen this 2.5M number.
Not a legit source... don't believe everything you read on the internet
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:24 pm to lsufb1912
Hence the word "reportedly".
My overall message is that these deals are not out of the realm of possibility for major market (including a town like Athens, GA which is 90 minutes from Atlanta) athletes.
My overall message is that these deals are not out of the realm of possibility for major market (including a town like Athens, GA which is 90 minutes from Atlanta) athletes.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:26 pm to wildtigercat93
Well thought out and reasonable.
I enjoy your responses.
I enjoy your responses.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:27 pm to Ponchy Tiger
All of that happens already.
Kids go off on Twitter about coaches
QBs and RBs have been full
Of themselves forever.
You don’t make it far as an OL getting your QB destroyed.
Kids go off on Twitter about coaches
QBs and RBs have been full
Of themselves forever.
You don’t make it far as an OL getting your QB destroyed.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:34 pm to WestCoastAg
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when conferences started making billions of dollars and schools started to pump hundreds of millions into facilities and started paying ten million dollar coaching salaries
They didn’t need paid players with NIL to make them that popular, so why do they need them now?
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:34 pm to wildtigercat93
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When do you arbitrarily decide that the players are making too much money? Curious to what your line is
How about they don’t get cash payments because they amateurs and they already have their living expenses covered in full by the universities they attend. If their family needs money so bad, tell them to get a job. 99.99% of all college athletes are a net drain on their universities, most of them substantially so. I’m here to cheer for my university, I don’t care about their personal struggles because the majority of them don’t even care about my alma mater, much less my problems. So in short, frick’em.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:36 pm to truthbetold
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imagine what a truly transcendent, legit celebrity college player like Reggie Bush or Tim Tebow would get in today's NIL market
Probably not as much as you think. NIL is just a recruiting tool. Upperclassmen don't need as much NIL $$$ because they are, for the most part, entrenched in their schools. Now, if Tim Tebow would have entered the transfer portal ahead of the 2008 season... that would have been interesting.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:41 pm to Ostrich
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Tim Tebow would have entered the transfer portal ahead of the 2008 season... that would have been interesting.
There would have been nowhere for him to step up to… now the top guys at FCS and G5 schools would have made bank
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:42 pm to chalmetteowl
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There would have been nowhere for him to step up to… now the top guys at FCS and G5 schools would have made bank
It wouldn't be about stepping up in schools. It would have been like Caleb Williams, going to whomever is offering the most in NIL
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