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re: Cal, Stanford and SMU to the ACC are again under consideration
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:50 pm to TulaneFan
Posted on 8/25/23 at 2:50 pm to TulaneFan
I think Clemson knows it is likely to happen with or without their support. Again, their best play is to make sure the new money coming into the ACC with the additions is all distributed through incentives with almost all of it related to football.
Let's say winning the ACC each year is worth an extra $25 million. That sure as hell helps soften the blow of being stuck in that GOR if Clemson is winning the league every other year for the rest of the decade.
Let's say winning the ACC each year is worth an extra $25 million. That sure as hell helps soften the blow of being stuck in that GOR if Clemson is winning the league every other year for the rest of the decade.
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Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:44 pm to Jwho77
Seems like Tulane's Win over Big12 Champ K-State + Winning the AAC Championship + NY6 Appearance + NY6 W over USC is making SMU fans really salty.
I can't imagine what their defense will be when the Green Wave beat Ole Miss in Week 2.
I can't imagine what their defense will be when the Green Wave beat Ole Miss in Week 2.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 3:51 pm to UncleLester
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SMU is in too many shadows of other popular Texas programs to be relevant in a Big Conference. They metro area couldn't even support them in past seasons when they were playing on Thursday or Friday nights in the most passionate state for consuming football.
It’s almost like they were playing shite teams on nights when Texas high schools have the spotlight
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:06 pm to UncleLester
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Seems like Tulane's Win over Big12 Champ K-State + Winning the AAC Championship + NY6 Appearance + NY6 W over USC is making SMU fans really salty.
I can't imagine what their defense will be when the Green Wave beat Ole Miss in Week 2.
I see you’re a man of good taste
Honestly I think TCU leaving SMU in the dust has more to do with it. Watching them make the Natty was probably the final straw
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:31 pm to Fat Harry
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It's actually 6. Banks was in.
I was at that game and in the visitor endzone. He was 100% in. Even their fans thought so when the replay was on their jumbotron.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:16 am to Dr RC
Thamel
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Sources: After a weekend of conversations, there’s continued momentum toward the ACC adding Stanford, Cal and SMU. ACC officials are working on gathering the presidents/chancellors on a call, which is expected to take place at some point early this week.
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Sources caution that nothing is finalized and the details are “only in pencil” as of now. Expect a decision either way this week. Officials are still working specifically on how to divide the pool of money that would be spilt up among ACC members after the three schools join.
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That amount is expected to be between $50 and $60 million annually. Some of that will be distributed to all members, and the rest would be put into a pool for success initiatives.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:21 am to tigerfan84
I’m not an expert on this sort of thing but doesn’t 3 more schools mean 3 more votes to keep the conference together?
If the ultimate goal is to break the GOR and blow up the conference I don’t see what a few extra peanuts of TV money does for FSU/Clemson/UNC etc
If the ultimate goal is to break the GOR and blow up the conference I don’t see what a few extra peanuts of TV money does for FSU/Clemson/UNC etc
Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:37 am to TulaneFan
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If the ultimate goal is to break the GOR and blow up the conference I don’t see what a few extra peanuts of TV money does for FSU/Clemson/UNC etc
FSU, Clemson, UNC, NC State are no votes.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 1:58 pm to RogerTempleton
Dellenger
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Sources: ACC presidents to meet on conference expansion on Monday night
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Over the last several days, momentum has been building in support of expansion — a change from 2 1/2 weeks ago. In a straw poll of presidents Aug. 9, an expansion vote fell at least one vote short of passing. There were four dissenters: Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina and NC State. Notre Dame receives a vote as the 15th member and supports expansion.
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The ACC’s decision with regards to Stanford and Cal is impacting two schools out West. Oregon State and Washington State are delaying any decisions of their own. The duo wishes to rebuild the Pac-12 — already a tall hurdle that will be made more difficult without a brand like Stanford.
Without Stanford, OSU and WSU’s options are limited. Joining either the Mountain West or the American Athletic Conference are the most likely scenarios. The Mountain West and American are making their pitches to the schools over the coming days
Posted on 8/28/23 at 2:04 pm to tigerfan84
Adding those schools isn't going to do anything to make those 4 schools want to stay...its counterproductive...if anything, this will only fuel their desire to leave the conference.
Posted on 8/28/23 at 2:15 pm to tigerfan84
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Brett McMurphy
One reason ACC considering Stanford, Cal & SMU is ESPN's media rights deal w/ACC allows ESPN to renegotiate (i.e. reduce revenue) if league drops below 15 members, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. With potential future departures of FSU, Clemson & possibly others, ACC considering P5 schools now as opposed to G5 schools later to maintain required membership number
LINK
Posted on 8/28/23 at 3:38 pm to tigerfan84
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Notre Dame receives a vote as the 15th member and supports expansion.
Really lame that the ACC allows ND, a non football member, to have a vote on matters pertaining to football
Posted on 8/28/23 at 3:48 pm to TulaneFan
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Really lame that the ACC allows ND, a non football member, to have a vote on matters pertaining to football
Never underestimate us to f@ck things up...I actually surprised these idiots are not adding CT also...
This is about football now and highest attendance is 14th nationally is CLemson (only FSU and VT above 60k in ACC and top 25 attendance..4 if you count ND)..so lets add three schools who come in nationally at 59, 69 and 79th in attendance
School Conference 2022 Average
Clemson ACC 80,694
Notre Dame Independent 76,193
Florida State ACC 67,254
Virginia Tech ACC 64,356
NC State ACC 55,924
Miami (FL) ACC 54,964
Pittsburgh ACC 54,710
North Carolina ACC 47,933
Louisville ACC 41,692
Syracuse ACC 40,828
Virginia ACC 40,681
California Pac-12 38,596
Boston College ACC 35,706
Georgia Tech ACC 34,408
Wake Forest ACC 30,053
Stanford Pac-12 29,965
SMU American 24,971
Duke ACC 24,505
Posted on 8/28/23 at 3:53 pm to tccdc
Other Power 5 for information purposes...
School Conference 2022 Average
1. Michigan Big Ten 110,246
2. Penn State Big Ten 107,379
3. Ohio State Big Ten 104,663
4. LSU SEC 100,596
5. Tennessee SEC 100,532
6. Texas Big 12 100,242
7. Alabama SEC 98,981
8. Texas A&M SEC 97,213
9. Georgia SEC 92,746
10. Florida SEC 87,180
11. Nebraska Big Ten 86,637
12. Auburn SEC 85,203
13. Oklahoma Big 12 83,835
16. South Carolina SEC 75,785
17. Wisconsin Big Ten 74,159
18. Arkansas SEC 73,155
19. Iowa Big Ten 69,250
20. Michigan State Big Ten 69,047
22. USC Pac-12 64,487
24. Washington Pac-12 62,933
25. Ole Miss SEC 62,575
26. Kentucky SEC 60,289
27. BYU Independent 59,674
28. Iowa State Big 12 57,344
29. Purdue Big Ten 57,129
30. Texas Tech Big 12 56,870
33. Oregon Pac-12 54,950
34. Oklahoma State Big 12 54,735
36. Missouri SEC 54,525
37. Mississippi State SEC 53,822
38. Utah Pac-12 52,057
39. Kansas State Big 12 51,165
40. Rutgers Big Ten 50,756
42. West Virginia Big 12 47,658
43. Indiana Big Ten 46,906
44. TCU Big 12 46,562
45. Baylor Big 12 45,463
46. Minnesota Big Ten 45,019
47. Arizona Pac-12 44,209
48. Arizona State Pac-12 43,081
49. Kansas Big 12 43,076
50. Illinois Big Ten 43,048
51. Colorado Pac-12 42,847
53. UCLA Pac-12 41,593
54. UCF American 41,542
59. California Pac-12 38,596
60. Cincinnati American 38,117
62. Boston College ACC 35,706
64. Georgia Tech ACC 34,408
66. Maryland Big Ten 31,934
67. Oregon State Pac-12 31,498
68. Wake Forest ACC 30,053
69. Stanford Pac-12 29,965
72. Vanderbilt SEC 29,193
73. Northwestern Big Ten 28,697
77. Washington State Pac-12 26,185
80. Duke ACC 24,505
School Conference 2022 Average
1. Michigan Big Ten 110,246
2. Penn State Big Ten 107,379
3. Ohio State Big Ten 104,663
4. LSU SEC 100,596
5. Tennessee SEC 100,532
6. Texas Big 12 100,242
7. Alabama SEC 98,981
8. Texas A&M SEC 97,213
9. Georgia SEC 92,746
10. Florida SEC 87,180
11. Nebraska Big Ten 86,637
12. Auburn SEC 85,203
13. Oklahoma Big 12 83,835
16. South Carolina SEC 75,785
17. Wisconsin Big Ten 74,159
18. Arkansas SEC 73,155
19. Iowa Big Ten 69,250
20. Michigan State Big Ten 69,047
22. USC Pac-12 64,487
24. Washington Pac-12 62,933
25. Ole Miss SEC 62,575
26. Kentucky SEC 60,289
27. BYU Independent 59,674
28. Iowa State Big 12 57,344
29. Purdue Big Ten 57,129
30. Texas Tech Big 12 56,870
33. Oregon Pac-12 54,950
34. Oklahoma State Big 12 54,735
36. Missouri SEC 54,525
37. Mississippi State SEC 53,822
38. Utah Pac-12 52,057
39. Kansas State Big 12 51,165
40. Rutgers Big Ten 50,756
42. West Virginia Big 12 47,658
43. Indiana Big Ten 46,906
44. TCU Big 12 46,562
45. Baylor Big 12 45,463
46. Minnesota Big Ten 45,019
47. Arizona Pac-12 44,209
48. Arizona State Pac-12 43,081
49. Kansas Big 12 43,076
50. Illinois Big Ten 43,048
51. Colorado Pac-12 42,847
53. UCLA Pac-12 41,593
54. UCF American 41,542
59. California Pac-12 38,596
60. Cincinnati American 38,117
62. Boston College ACC 35,706
64. Georgia Tech ACC 34,408
66. Maryland Big Ten 31,934
67. Oregon State Pac-12 31,498
68. Wake Forest ACC 30,053
69. Stanford Pac-12 29,965
72. Vanderbilt SEC 29,193
73. Northwestern Big Ten 28,697
77. Washington State Pac-12 26,185
80. Duke ACC 24,505
Posted on 8/28/23 at 3:53 pm to tigeroarz1
quote:This dude selling way too hard. No way he believes this. I guess Stanford and Cal are good schools for the tobacco road snobs but SMU just seems to be out of left field
process on the adding of these 3 fine potential members.
This post was edited on 8/28/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:35 pm to UncleFestersLegs
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This dude selling way too hard. No way he believes this. I guess Stanford and Cal are good schools for the tobacco road snobs but SMU just seems to be out of left field
SMU’s only redeeming quality is they are willing to work for free as an indentured servant for a decade
This alone should tell you their product is shite and they bring nothing to the conference. If I was the ACC I would vote on Calford and leave out SMU
Posted on 8/28/23 at 5:42 pm to RLDSC FAN
Can't wait for Louisville vs Stanford at 10:30 p.m on the ACC Network!
Posted on 8/28/23 at 5:46 pm to cardswinagain
SMU - Wake Forest will be a nice new rivalry
Posted on 8/28/23 at 6:28 pm to RLDSC FAN
On the one hand, buying your way in is ridiculous. ON the other hand, why not? 1/2 the P5 was grandfathered in anyway.
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