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re: Bynum should be suspended for the entire next season!
Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:58 am to ThaKaptin
Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:58 am to ThaKaptin
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thread is about people getting their asses put on the floor for being little bitches.
A little research goes a long ways:
LINK
Shooting 3s in the 4th up by over 50 points?
Up 109-57, shooting 3s with :15 left in the game?
Hmm...
And this isn't against the Lakers, it just shows that they do it, and so does every other team with a big 4th quarter lead. What Dallas was doing was absolutely nothing out of the norm, no clue why people are freaking out over it.
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Posted on 5/9/11 at 12:58 am to offdacorner
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Uhhh--Rambis/Mchale led to both benches being cleared--try defending your teammate in today's NBA
has absolutely nothing to do with whether the league should take action on that single event (the foul).The league might not want fights (and rightfully so,I might add),but anyone calling for such an extreme suspension for THAT play doesn't understand the game on a very fundamental level.Differential in size should not determine severity in penalty.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:04 am to shel311
I feel no pitty. Glad Bynum did it. Dont really care what anyone thinks of me for it.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:04 am to ThaKaptin
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I feel no pitty. Glad Bynum did it. Dont really care what anyone thinks of me for it
Ok.
But let's not act like Dallas did something out of the ordinary.
This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 1:05 am
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:09 am to RonBurgundy
The league has made it easy for players--of any size--to cheap shot other players without fear of retribution.
"Oh well--we're going to lose the series--might as well take one of their guys out since they can't retaliate--unless they want to be suspended for the next game of the playoffs."
See, the difference between this and Mchale/Rambis is that Mchale knew that he would have to answer not only to Rambis, but to the entire Lakers bench.
These days, players can assault each other as long as it's during play. And all they'll receive is a fine and a 5 game suspension.
Somebody's gong to get seriously hurt--because David Stern doesn't let the players defend themselves or each other.
And Stern created these rules in large part because fans like you don't want to see the players defending themselves or each other.
And it seems that since you can't understand teammates protecting one another when cheap shots start occurring, then it's you who doesn't understand any team sport on a very fundamental level.
"Oh well--we're going to lose the series--might as well take one of their guys out since they can't retaliate--unless they want to be suspended for the next game of the playoffs."
See, the difference between this and Mchale/Rambis is that Mchale knew that he would have to answer not only to Rambis, but to the entire Lakers bench.
These days, players can assault each other as long as it's during play. And all they'll receive is a fine and a 5 game suspension.
Somebody's gong to get seriously hurt--because David Stern doesn't let the players defend themselves or each other.
And Stern created these rules in large part because fans like you don't want to see the players defending themselves or each other.
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The league might not want fights (and rightfully so,I might add)
And it seems that since you can't understand teammates protecting one another when cheap shots start occurring, then it's you who doesn't understand any team sport on a very fundamental level.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:10 am to shel311
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But let's not act like Dallas did something out of the ordinary.
The fact that was the final game in the career of the most dominate coach in the history of the NBA should have been enough to to NOT run the score up to add insult to injury from it being a sweep. Classless team gets classless response. Starts at the owner, but im not starting that argument again.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:12 am to ThaKaptin
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The fact that was the final game in the career of the most dominate coach in the history of the NBA should have been enough to to NOT run the score up to add insult to injury from it being a sweep
Yikes.
Maybe they should have just lost the game, cause you don't want to embarass the most dominant coach in NBA history with a sweep, right?
I mean, why stop the coddling. If you wanna coddle the coach, let him win a game, so he can feel good about himself.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:14 am to shel311
I didnt say a thing about losing the game, I said they shouldnt be bombing 3's inthe first 10 seconds of a shot clock to run the score up in that situation. No need to stretch my words to make them sound worse for your argument.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:18 am to ThaKaptin
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didnt say a thing about losing the game, I said they shouldnt be bombing 3's inthe first 10 seconds of a shot clock to run the score up in that situation. No need to stretch my words to make them sound worse for your argument
I never stretched your words or insinuated that you said that.
My point was, where should that line be drawn?
Again, Mavs did nothing different than basically any other team has done with that kind of a lead, that's basically fact.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:22 am to shel311
Thought I was pretty clear about the line. I'll say it again for the hard of hearing (or in this case, vision impaired)
You-dont-momb-3's-and-drive-the-lane-in-the-first-10-seconds-of-the-shot-clock-unless-you-are-looking-to-run-the-score-up.
You-dont-momb-3's-and-drive-the-lane-in-the-first-10-seconds-of-the-shot-clock-unless-you-are-looking-to-run-the-score-up.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:23 am to ThaKaptin
quote:a little intelligence wouldn't hurt
This, plus they were still bmbing 3's. frick those guys, I was hoping the Lakers would lose by forfeit from clearing the bench and breaking those assholes legs. Then the Grizz;ies would get a bye into the finals.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:24 am to ThaKaptin
There's no such thing as running up the score in professional sports.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:25 am to ThaKaptin
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Thought I was pretty clear about the line. I'll say it again for the hard of hearing (or in this case, vision impaired)
You-dont-momb-3's-and-drive-the-lane-in-the-first-10-seconds-of-the-shot-clock-unless-you-are-looking-to-run-the-score-up
And I thought I made it pretty clear that Dallas did nothing any different from any team having a big lead like that. Not one thing.
If you think the Lakers or any other team never shoots 3s early in the shot clock with big leads, I simply do not know what to tell you.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:25 am to The Boat
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There's no such thing as running up the score in professional sports
This times eleventy seven billion.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:40 am to ThaKaptin
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nobody said a damn thing about anything with 8 mins to go, they were still bombing 3's in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock with 4 mins to go up 35. frick those guys. Period. Hope he has cracked ribs and with luck a bruised arse from landing on it.
I am shocked, SHOCKED, to see this come from a bama fan.
So far what I've gathered from this thread is that if you're ever up by 35 points with 8 minutes left in a game, you have to shoot mid-range jumpers. Because you can't shoot 3s and you can't drive a wide open lane for a layup. And preferably, miss the mid-range jumper so the other team doesn't feel too bad about getting embarrassed. Afterall, these are just grown men getting paid millions of dollars to play a sport, why should they be expected to behave like professionals?
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:44 am to JG77056
where do people keep getting this whole 8 minute thing?
I am talking about this shite going on, up 35, with less than 4 fricking minutes to go.
8 minutes? yeah, you still keep going full force cause a LOT can happen in 8 minutes, but I dont even know if it possible to SCORE 35 points in less than 4 minutes, much less make up that much ground.
Get your numbers right before you blast me thnx very much.
I am talking about this shite going on, up 35, with less than 4 fricking minutes to go.
8 minutes? yeah, you still keep going full force cause a LOT can happen in 8 minutes, but I dont even know if it possible to SCORE 35 points in less than 4 minutes, much less make up that much ground.
Get your numbers right before you blast me thnx very much.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:47 am to ThaKaptin
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The fact that was the final game in the career of the most dominate coach in the history of the NBA should have been enough to to NOT run the score up to add insult to injury from it being a sweep. Classless team gets classless response. Starts at the owner, but im not starting that argument again.
Care to explain how to avoid running the score up in a fricking basketball game? Should they miss on purpose, or take consecutive 24-second shot clock violations?
It's not like they were playing scrubs - these are the Lakers. I don't blame them at all for playing to the whistle. Hell, it was only 2 weeks earlier that they blew a 23-point lead to an inferior team.
Yet still, they took their starters out at some point in the 4th quarter, although I can't remember exactly when.
Bottom line is that there was nothing classless or unusual about the Mavs behavior. The Lakers can't say the same.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:50 am to ThaKaptin
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8 minutes? yeah, you still keep going full force cause a LOT can happen in 8 minutes, but I dont even know if it possible to SCORE 35 points in less than 4 minutes, much less make up that much ground.
Bynum was ejected with 8:21 left in the game
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Get your numbers right before you blast
Right back at you slick.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:54 am to ThaKaptin
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ThaKaptin
I'm trying to think of a way to equate it to something you'd understand. Pretend the owner of the trailer park is about to evict you (Lakers being kicked out of the playoffs in four games), but first he wants to bang your sister. You have conflicting feelings because you want to bang your sister, but at the same time maybe he'll let you stay if he enjoys banging your sister.
So you sit back and do nothing (the Lakers leaving the lane wide open) while he gets your sister liquored up and bangs her (The Mavs making the shots). You sit back and allow this to happen repeatedly, even after you realize he's still kicking you out. It's like you just enjoy watching your sister get banged.
Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, you elbow the trailer park owner in the ribs while he's in the middle of banging your sister.
That's not cool man. You've been watching him bang your sister for like a week at this point, why all of a sudden are you mad? How was he supposed to know you didn't like watching him bang your sister anymore? If you're tired of it just go in the other room (fake injury and go to the locker room). Handle it like an adult.
Posted on 5/9/11 at 1:56 am to ThaKaptin
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I am talking about this shite going on, up 35, with less than 4 fricking minutes to go.
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4:45 78-112 Corey Brewer enters the game for Shawn Marion
4:45 78-112 Ian Mahinmi enters the game for Jason Kidd
4:45 78-112 Brian Cardinal enters the game for Peja Stojakovic
4:45 78-112 DeShawn Stevenson enters the game for Brendan Haywood
Starters came out with 4:45 remaining. They only attempted 3 3-pointers after that point, and only attempted ONE lay-up.
So basically you're pissed off because a bunch of guys who never play shot three 3-pointers and attempted a lay-up against a bunch of other guys who never play in the presence of Phil Jackson.
I don't think I agree with you, sir.
This post was edited on 5/9/11 at 1:57 am
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