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re: Brian Windhorst (Lebron): MJ agreed to The Last Dance because he felt threatened by Lebron

Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:00 pm to
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Rodman would have had Green out of that series in thirty seconds of the first game.


They would've both been grabbing asses and kicking nuts of each other and getting ejected in the first minute.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59732 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:02 pm to
Playmaking is a more valuable skill than defensive rebounding.

We are in the age of the “uncontested rebound” (see westbrook triple double). when teams miss shots they don’t even try to offensive rebound. They get back on D. That makes defensive rebounding less valuable.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Agreed that he and the Bulls benefitted greatly from a watered down league.

But his teams were transcendent. The 2018 Warriors probably beat them, but that’s the only team I think does. And the 2018 Warriors are an aberration - an already historically great team that was able to add a top 15 player in history, at his peak. It’s not really a slight to be beaten by that team as every team in history would



Jordan's teams were historically great. And who knows how he could've done vs these Warriors teams.

I only push back when people say the teams he beat were great. None of them had anyone in their prime that could compete with him.

In contrast, in the late 80s while he was the best player in the league he wasn't worlds better than Magic and Bird. They were at least in the same stratosphere. Once Bird, Magic and Isiah got old no one else stepped up until Duncan, Shaq and Kobe.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:11 pm to
This is pretty funny


Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:13 pm to
He mad
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28578 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:16 pm to
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Windhorst is Lebron’s mouthpiece.


100000000000000000000000000000000000%

Windhorst is such a mouthpiece, he can tell you what the Chinese dick, Lebron had, smelled and tasted like.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 3:20 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25994 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:17 pm to
The Jordan-worshipping is out of control now. FWIW, I think he’s the goat. I won’t dispute that.

The documentary was almost funny at times. Jordan watching a video of Gary Payton, then laughing because The Glove said he got to him a little bit.

Jordan wants you to think that the only times he lost, it was because he beat himself.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:20 pm to
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Jordan's teams were historically great. And who knows how he could've done vs these Warriors teams. 


I can't see the Bulls having a shot vs the KD Warriors. They only scored under 100 points in 4 of 38 playoff games.

The 96-97 and 97-98 Bulls only cracked 100 in 10 of 40 playoff games. Scoring power was never the Bulls strong suit, and the KD Warriors were historically loaded in that department.

The pre-KD Warriors...that would have been an interesting series. It would have come down to scoring again, but the Bulls would have had a better time only having Steph and Klay that could go nuts.

The '87 Lakers and '86 Celts would have given the Bulls a major run for their money. Beyond that...it would have been tough for any historical team to hang with the best Bulls team.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:21 pm to
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Jordan wants you to think that the only times he lost, it was because he beat himself.



I truly think Jordan actually believes this is true. He's not trying to make people think that as much as he just thinks believes that to his core.

I think that is a personality trait that helped him become the GOAT. Just absurd confidence.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
20328 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:22 pm to
Funny
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:26 pm to
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I can't see the Bulls having a shot vs the KD Warriors. They only scored under 100 points in 4 of 38 playoff games.

The 96-97 and 97-98 Bulls only cracked 100 in 10 of 40 playoff games. Scoring power was never the Bulls strong suit, and the KD Warriors were historically loaded in that department.


The Bulls had players that were elite defensively though. We're talking 3 Hall of Fame level defenders against 3 Hall of Fame level offensive threats.

Even in 98, Pippen and Jordan were both All NBA 1st Team Defense and Rodman led the league in defensive rebounding by A LOT (and overall rebounding).

It would be a fantastic series.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:29 pm to
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I truly think Jordan actually believes this is true. He's not trying to make people think that as much as he just thinks believes that to his core.

I think that is a personality trait that helped him become the GOAT. Just absurd confidence.


People love this about Jordan and absolutely hate it about other athletes. It's fascinating.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:32 pm to
That big ole fatty stalker is annoying. If there’s one good thing about no sports, it was not having to listen to him spew LeBeon jizz on SportsCenter on a daily basis.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:33 pm to
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People love this about Jordan and absolutely hate it about other athletes. It's fascinating.



I think people like it when athletes back it up.

Tiger was like that early on as well in all his interviews e.g. "I am not surprised I won, I expect to win every time I play".
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
37132 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:34 pm to
I think Jordan succeeded with this documentary. He wanted to remind some of those who had lost their way that he was and is and always will be the GOAT and wanted to show the new generation how LeBron will never compare.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 3:41 pm to
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Even in 98, Pippen and Jordan were both All NBA 1st Team Defense and Rodman led the league in defensive rebounding by A LOT (and overall rebounding). 


I don't think this really is the best version of the Bulls. Rodman would have been a bad fit for Durant. By his time with the Bulls, he only defended interior players.

They'd have to play him on Green, IMO. Pippen would have to take Durant, which would leave MJ and Harper chasing Steph and Klay off screens, which was not their strength.

The KD Warriors, the Cavs were better in the LeBron/KD and Kyrie/Steph matchups. It was down the line that the Cavs couldn't match. The Bulls would have the same issue. Especially if we're using the 96-98 Bulls, they would also have had to make MJ use a ton of defensive energy.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38241 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:00 pm to
Stanley Hudson ain't changed a bit
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
158330 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:09 pm to
The true GOAT shrewdness on display here is MJ dropping this the year after bron doesn’t even make the playoffs lol
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
44578 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:11 pm to
Gtfo. Even people that never watched MJ knows he was better than LeBron and by far a bigger figure.
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