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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I would think LSU was better than FSU that year but that's just my opinion so it doesn't matter. LSU was not the best team in the nation because they showed, on the field, they weren't the best team in their own conference.
but who showed they were the better team?
quote:The conference winners aren't the best teams?
why would you create a system to determine the best team where you don't allow the best teams in?
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
OU was not that good of a team
But got to the FIESTA BOWL??? I tell ya what JAKE. WHY aren't YOU running the NCAA??? You seem to have ALL the fricking answers.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:26 pm to Gmorgan4982
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The conference winners aren't the best teams?
within their conference, they are (typically)
within the big picture, they are not (often)
the Sun Belt champ is not better than the SEC champ. and i feel safe in saying this will not happen in my lifetime
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:27 pm to dukke v
quote:
But got to the FIESTA BOWL??? I
Colt McCoy got hurt and UT lost their final 2 games and OU slid into the title game late
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:
so you are saying that a team goes 12-1 loses its CCG to another 12-1 team is not as good as an 8-5 team that wins its CCG.
Thats not what I said at all. And YOU know this. STAY ON TOPIC!!! This is about SFP'S HATE FOR BOISE!!!
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Is that the only thing involved in deciding a national champion? Of course computer polls are based on subjective data. Someone has to come up with what he/a group of people think should be weighted more when put into the math formula. That's why not all math-formula polls end up the same.
you think the computer polls are based in non-objective data?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:28 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
Well then he should argue that there are too many conferences in the FBS system
why that is completely irrelevant.
quote:
any shot at a title based solely on opinion, what you people like to call "objective criteria," is a silly argument.
the objective data is based on what happens in games, on the field over the course of 12 weeks or so. A sample of 12 is better than a sample of 1.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yes, but a playoff system, whether it be the BCS 2-team system or my system should be interested only in finding 1 team that is the best. So if you are not the best in your own conference, you should not be named the 1 best team in the nation. It's silly.
within their conference, they are (typically)
within the big picture, they are not (often)
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:29 pm to H-Town Tiger
What is this "objective data"?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:30 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
Is that the only thing involved in deciding a national champion?
that's pretty much all i've been bringing up b/c all you harp on is subjective data
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
So which math-formula poll should be used to decide the national champion?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Colt McCoy got hurt and UT lost their final 2 games
This is OU'S fault???
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:31 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
What is this "objective data"?
who you beat
how badly did you beat them
where you beat them
how many times you lost
weigh SOS based on your best 4 opponents
really analyze MOV against these 4
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
that's pretty much all i've been bringing up b/c all you harp on is subjective data
Who was the BEST team in the country last year????
Sort it out for me.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:33 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
. LSU was not the best team in the nation because they showed, on the field, they weren't the best team in their own conference.
In 2001 Florida had a better conference record that SEC champ LSU. They also skull fricked us by 29 in Baton Rouge. But because LSU won 1 game over a team that had beaten Florida and LSU with a special name, according to you we were better than Florida.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
who you beat
how badly did you beat them
where you beat them
how many times you lost
weigh SOS based on your best 4 opponents
really analyze MOV against these 4
Like I have said. YOU should run the FOOTBALL part of the NCAA!!!!
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:34 pm to dukke v
quote:
This is OU'S fault???
no but that's not the point. OU only won the Big 12 because McCoy git hut and UT lost their last 2, not because OU was terrible good necessarily.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So how is how good each team you beat determined?
who you beat
quote:Is a 13-0 dominant defensive win better than a 55-42 overtime thriller?
how badly did you beat them
quote:Is every game going to be given a crowd coefficient?
where you beat them
quote:You're the one arguing that undefeated teams should be given no shot.
how many times you lost
quote:What "objective math formula" should be used to determine all this.
weigh SOS based on your best 4 opponents
quote:so is 13-0 the same as 55-42 in OT?
really analyze MOV against these 4
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:I never said we were better than Florida that year. Florida didn't win their division, much less their conference. They showed during the season they weren't the best team in the conference so why should they be named the best team in the nation?
according to you we were better than Florida.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:38 pm to Gmorgan4982
Plus, why are just those numbers the important ones? What objective determination was used to say that those are what criteria should be looked at? Or is it just your opinion that that is what should be looked at?
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