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re: Boise State's Bowl Record since 2004
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i like to reward producers, not leaches. the BCS conferences generate revenue. non-BCS programs who game the system leach off the success of the BCS conferences
So BSU has NO shot based on this???? YOU a frickING FOOL!!!! AND YOU have a LAW degree??? I PRAY for the future.
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:13 pm to H-Town Tiger
Objective data has been wrong on the football field many, many, many, many times.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:14 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Teams are divided into conferences. If you aren't the best team in your conference, then you shouldn't get a shot at the national championship.
that is illogical
if you're #2 in your conference, and superior to every other team in the nation (like say, UF last year), then why should you be left out?
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Better according to what criteria.
hell just use objective data
who they played, how many losses they had, and their MOV (esp against the best teams they played)
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LSU didn't win their conference so, as much as I like LSU, I wouldn't feel bad for them if they didn't get a shot at the national championship.
LSU who had 2 losses in a good/great conference, compared to FSU, who had 4 losses in a mediocre conference
you're really saying FSU deserved it over LSU?
do you have a logical reason for this assertion?
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:15 pm to dukke v
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So BSU has NO shot based on this???? YOU a frickING FOOL!!!! AND YOU have a LAW degree??? I PRAY for the future.
You struggle to comprehend. BSU does have a shot....if they go out and schedule in a manner that would warrant being rewarded by objective measures.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LSU who had 2 losses in a good/great conference, compared to FSU, who had 4 losses in a mediocre conference
you're really saying FSU deserved it over LSU
WHAT?????? I don't see where he said this. You are getting dumber by the minute.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:16 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Objective data has been wrong on the football field many, many, many, many times.
objective data does not = certainty or absolute truth. The winner of 1 game is not always the best team.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:18 pm to Tiger in NY
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You struggle to comprehend.
NO I DON'T.
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BSU does have a shot....if they go out and schedule in a manner that would warrant being rewarded by objective measures
If BSU OR TCU OR BYU go 12-0 and the rest of teams that are so-called POWER TEAMS have 2 losses then they are in. Its pretty simple.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you mean the schools who produce the revenue and who have the best talent and teams...now?
FIFY
If Oklahoma or Nebraska can be successful, there's no reason why Boise State can't eventually catch up to them.
In a fair playoff system, you reward based on success now, not historically.
Which was why Boise St 43, Oklahoma 42 was such a big deal.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Because you're not even the best team in your conference so why should you get recognized as the national champion? That is illogical.
then why should you be left out?
quote:Do you use "objective criteria" to predict football games? Why don't you win everyone of the TD Pick 'em contests doing that?
hell just use objective data
quote:Well, FSU won their conference. LSU didn't so LSU had shown they are not the best team in their conference. Why should they be called the best team in the nation? If you want to make a decent argument, argue that there are too many teams/conferences in the FBS subdivision.
you're really saying FSU deserved it over LSU?
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:19 pm to dukke v
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WHAT?????? I don't see where he said this
in his system based on conference champs, FSU (ACC champ) would get in before LSU (SEC runner up)
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:19 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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In a fair playoff system, you reward based on success now, not historically.
Do you think a win over San Jose St. is equal to a win over Florida? What I am seeing is an argument by a few that 12-0 in the WAC is exactly equal to 12-0 in the SEC.
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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in his system based on conference champs, FSU (ACC champ) would get in before LSU (SEC runner up
OH WELL!!! It depends on things. IF you are that good [SAY LSU] WIN your conference or STFU.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:21 pm to dukke v
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I don't see where he said this.
he said he wouldn't feel bad for teams that do not win their conference not making the playoffs. The trouble with only taking conference winners that SFP is pointing out is that not all conferences are equal and one conference could have 2 great teams while another conference is won by a mediocre team.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:22 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Because you're not even the best team in your conference so why should you get recognized as the national champion? That is illogical.
but you're the one anointing all conference as being equal
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Well, FSU won their conference. LSU didn't so LSU had shown they are not the best team in their conference.
but who showed they were the better team?
why would you create a system to determine the best team where you don't allow the best teams in?
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If you want to make a decent argument, argue that there are too many teams/conferences in the FBS subdivision.
i've been arguing for a theoretical super conference since before teh controversy in 2004
no chance of happening in reality
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:23 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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Which was why Boise St 43, Oklahoma 42 was such a big deal.
it really wasn't that big of a deal. only to schmucks and retarded national pundits
OU was not that good of a team and BSU got basically every lucky bounce
and not to mention, they weren't even the first non-BCS team to win a BCS bowl
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:23 pm to dukke v
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IF you are that good [SAY LSU] WIN your conference or STFU.
so you are saying that a team goes 12-1 loses its CCG to another 12-1 team is not as good as an 8-5 team that wins its CCG.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:23 pm to H-Town Tiger
quote:Well then he should argue that there are too many conferences in the FBS system. To keep the same number of conferences in the FBS but to keep certain teams out of any shot at a title based solely on opinion, what you people like to call "objective criteria," is a silly argument.
not all conferences are equal
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:24 pm to H-Town Tiger
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he said he wouldn't feel bad for teams that do not win their conference not making the playoffs. The trouble with only taking conference winners that SFP is pointing out is that not all conferences are equal and one conference could have 2 great teams while another conference is won by a mediocre team.
I understand ALL of this. BUT Should a two loss team from the SEC after winning its CCG get to the NC game ahead of a TCU or BSU??? I say NO.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:24 pm to dukke v
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WIN your conference or STFU.
so winning the WAC is as meaningful as winning the SEC?
hell...winning the Sun Belt is as meaningful as winning the WAC?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 3:25 pm to Gmorgan4982
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based solely on opinion, what you people like to call "objective criteria,"
objective data is objective data
you think the computer polls are based in non-objective data?
hell, the computers aren't even allowed to incorporate MOV and cross-reference that with SOS
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