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re: Bill introduced to replace NCAA, limitless transfers, shake up conferences, cap coach pay
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:04 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:04 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Just when you think they couldn't screw up college athletics any worse, they somehow find a way by getting politicians involved.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:07 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
How is socialism restoring college sports?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:07 am to choupiquesushi
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Yeah the govt will make it better??
Someone has to provide oversight. It’s already a government-backed system. If it were truly free market, an investor-owned startup would have outcompeted college athletics long ago by paying the players. That never happened because the value of college athletics comes from its ties to the government run education system.
The problem with letting pseudo-government organizations act without any oversight is the incentives are wrong.
It should either be a socialist system with serious oversight to ensure it’s actually providing societal value, or it should be a fully capitalist system. A socialist system with no oversight, which is what we have now, is the worst of both worlds.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:08 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Most of this is so dumb it doens't even need repsonding to. But I'm curiosu about this one:
how would this be any different than the NCAA? I don't get these people...for years and I mean YEARS people complained about the NCAA for being worthless or not enforcing rules or enforcing them too liberally or too strict or whatever. Then we get to this new portal/NIL era and people are pleading for the NCAA to step in and do something to police this chaos, but they're undercut at every turn but the fricking federal courts (for some reason?) to where they have zero power. So what would banning the NCAA and creating a new one do?
in one final bit of hilarity, I like how that is the title of the bill while it then goes on to essnetially destroy college sports in brand new ways
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create the American College Sports Association. The entity would replace the NCAA and, “oversee and regulate college sports.”
how would this be any different than the NCAA? I don't get these people...for years and I mean YEARS people complained about the NCAA for being worthless or not enforcing rules or enforcing them too liberally or too strict or whatever. Then we get to this new portal/NIL era and people are pleading for the NCAA to step in and do something to police this chaos, but they're undercut at every turn but the fricking federal courts (for some reason?) to where they have zero power. So what would banning the NCAA and creating a new one do?
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“Restore College Sports Act”
in one final bit of hilarity, I like how that is the title of the bill while it then goes on to essnetially destroy college sports in brand new ways
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:52 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
one of the worst pieces of legislation i have ever seen....pure communism.
it would get struck down quickly by the courts. They have already ruled you can not limit ones ability to make money. period.
it would get struck down quickly by the courts. They have already ruled you can not limit ones ability to make money. period.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:10 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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(R-WA)
Washington is a joke
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:22 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
The cat is already out of the bag in college sports. They are all free agents out for bid. Some athletes have value in the portal and others do not. Let them suffer or profit from their own decisions.
As a fan, I do not think the conference realignment, portal and NIL are serving any great benefit, but the free market is ruling and this is where we are.
As a fan, I do not think the conference realignment, portal and NIL are serving any great benefit, but the free market is ruling and this is where we are.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:32 am to weptiger
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As a fan, I do not think the conference realignment, portal and NIL are serving any great benefit, but the free market is ruling and this is where we are.
the "free market" shouldn't be something that exists in every facet of life. If you took a poll of the masses and asked if the government should give everyone a $10K bonus this year on their check, most people would say "hell yeah where do I sign!?" although obviously in reality that would be a horrendous thing overall.
We're talking about amateur student athletics. Amateur.....student....athletes. The "free market" shouldn't be a factor here one iota. The fact that the government inserted itself and stripped the governing body (NCAA) of its power to keep things amateur is what got us here.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:40 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Will it do anything to address the pathetic, corrupt officiating?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:43 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
So the NCAA run by government hacks with dumber rules.
Nah, we’re good.
Nah, we’re good.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:52 am to WG_Dawg
quote:If this were truly the free market at work the “aggrieved” athletes would have told the NCAA to frick off a long time ago and played in an alternate league/association that allowed all of the things they thought they were entitled to.
The "free market" shouldn't be a factor here one iota. The fact that the government inserted itself and stripped the governing body (NCAA) of its power to keep things amateur is what got us here.
The problem is that alternate doesn’t exist because the free market doesn’t really give a shite about 18-20 year olds playing sports unless they’re affiliated with a pro league/team or an NCAA school. So they chose to stay within the NCAA model, receive all of the benefits that come with it, but not abide by its rules.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:11 pm to MOT
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If this were truly the free market at work the “aggrieved” athletes would have told the NCAA to frick off a long time ago and played in an alternate league/association that allowed all of the things they thought they were entitled to. The problem is that alternate doesn’t exist because the free market doesn’t really give a shite about 18-20 year olds playing sports unless they’re affiliated with a pro league/team or an NCAA school. So they chose to stay within the NCAA model, receive all of the benefits that come with it, but not abide by its rules.
This is spot on.
In reality, the market showed that these athletes have little to no value separate from the socialized education system. The idea that the players must be paid is actually socialism yet people with a surface level view of the situation describe it as free market.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:32 pm to David Ricky
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4. Require conferences to be composed of schools in the same time zone.
He must be a lonely WSU alum
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:40 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
How very socialist of them.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:54 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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The idea that the players must be paid
it infuriates me to no end that that simple statement above is what got the ball rolling straight into hell on this whole thing. Players were already compensated to the tune of 6 figures in a variety of different ways including, yes...monetary stipends. But the vocal minority kept on long enough about them needing to be PAID paid, like salaries, and now look where we are. It's as sad as it is maddening and pathetic.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:15 pm to WG_Dawg
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it infuriates me to no end that that simple statement above is what got the ball rolling straight into hell on this whole thing. Players were already compensated to the tune of 6 figures in a variety of different ways including, yes...monetary stipends. But the vocal minority kept on long enough about them needing to be PAID paid, like salaries, and now look where we are. It's as sad as it is maddening and pathetic.
Yea man frick capitalism
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:23 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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A coach’s maximum annual salary would have a cap of, “10 times the full cost of attendance at such institution,
So LSU could only pay its coach a little under 300k and Harvard could pay their coach 900k?
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Estimated Yearly Cost: 2025-26 Louisiana Resident Non-Louisiana Resident
Tuition & Fees $12,472 $29,148
Housing $10,004 $10,004
Meal Plan (All Access Meal Plan) $5,400 $5,400
TOTAL $27,876 $44,552
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Harvard College Tuition Rates Academic Year 2025-26
Tuition $59,320
Health Services $1,800
Housing Rate $13,532
Student Services $3,676
Food Rate $8,598
Total $86,926
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:41 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Yea man frick capitalism
again, much like the "free market", capitalism isn't an idea that should be present in LITERALLY every facet of your entire life. Amateur athletics isn't for capitalism. It's for amateur athletes to go play sports in exchange for a free education and a truck load of other things they were already compensated for. It was a good system that worked for over 100 years until people like you (apparently) decided that was too much of a good thing so we gotta put a stop to it.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:44 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
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NIL funds and revenue directly shared with the schools to be distributed “equally among all student athletes”
That’s something straight out of Atlas Shrugged.
Redistributing value from elite athletes to low or negative-revenue sports isn’t fairness—it’s forced collectivism. Fix NIL, but don’t kill merit in the process.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:56 pm to Hayekian serf
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Fix NIL,
this is not possible. The second that pen pushers in the courts decided to allow players to be paid that was the end of it and you can't turn it back or "fix it". How would you even do that?
The idea that the QB would get a percentage of sales of his jersey in the school bookstore, or could get a few bucks for each autograph he signs at fan day, etc. like NIL SHOULD be was never going to happen. So if you just make the rules ultra super strict with contracts and buyouts and blah blah, wtf differentiates it from the pros? If I wanted to watch highly paid professionals I'd simply watch the NFL.
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