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Big 12, ACC coaches not keen on proposed CFP byes for SEC, Big Ten

Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:17 am
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:17 am
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The College Football Playoff hasn't unveiled its first 12-team field yet, but discussions on a 14-team competition beginning in 2026 are already raising eyebrows among Big 12 and ACC coaches.

In the 12-team playoff structure, the five highest-ranked conference champions are guaranteed a spot in the bracket and the four highest-ranked conference winners will earn a first-round bye. But multiple sources told ESPN that one 14-team model that's currently being considered includes provisions for the SEC and Big Ten to get three automatic qualifiers each -- and the only two byes for their conference champions.

"Automatic first-round byes for the Big Ten and SEC is like the NFL saying the Cowboys get a first-round bye since they have more fans than the Bengals," TCU coach Sonny Dykes told ESPN. "How preposterous is that?"


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"A playoff format that guarantees a first-round bye to any team, division or conference before the season starts is unheard of in any sport as far as I'm aware," Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy said Friday. "Based on the premise proposed, a team could be undefeated and ranked No. 1 in the country and still not receive a first-round bye because teams were awarded one before the season even began."

A source told ESPN this week that balancing the desires of the power wielded by the SEC and Big Ten with their combined 34 teams is a delicate juggling act.

"The balance in the room is how to recognize contributions of the Big Ten and SEC while also being fair and collaborative to the collective room," the source said.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:31 am to
An automatic bye for a conference is ridiculous. The Big Ten and the SEC will have that most seasons regardless.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8730 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:38 am to
Teams outside of the BIG/SEC barely deserve to be in the discussion at this point.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
1298 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:43 am to
TCU did recently beat Michigan to make the title game. So to say they shouldn’t even be in is a stretch.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13984 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:46 am to
How is this latest information on conference byes, not a tool used by the SEC and B1G to distance themselves from these non-superconferences? It seems silly to react like this is the future of college football when SEC and B1G Presidents and Chancellors are in talks with each other to leave the NCAA and all it represents.

The ACC as we know it will soon not exist in its present format. And when I say soon, like this season. The Big 12 and the ACC are both in full survivor mode and you can't blame them.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16988 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:19 am to
Why would the Big Ten have as many automatic qualifies as the SEC???

Should be 4 and 2
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16405 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:52 pm to
Should be no automatic byes period.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1471 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:57 pm to
Who cares what the soon to be dead/irrelevant ACC thinks? They’re about to be carved up like a Christmas Turkey and have at best four or five of their original teams left (the dregs like Wake and GT).

The Big Twelve is setting itself up nicely to be a basketball conference for if/when the SEC and Big Ten break away. The absolute best case scenario for them and the rest of the have not’s would be to allow their conference champ and the best champ of the rest to have a non-bye spot and much smaller slice of the pie, but we’re much more likely to see them excluded entirely and the lesser college football/sports ecosystem collapse as tv dollars dry up and schools refuse to supplement the sports out of their endowments.

Long story short: enjoy it while you can, folks. Large swaths of college sports are very likely to go the way of the dodo bird.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:02 pm to
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Should be no automatic byes period.


It's as simple as this.

If the big 10 and sec are set on destroying normal college football then they just need to turn to their own playoff with those two conferences and be done with it
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
1836 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:04 pm to
The 14 team proposal is Notre Dame being a bunch of crybabies. The committee should tell them to either join a conference or stop being babies.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 1:08 pm to
With so many teams the sec is gonna need to have a 4 team playoff just determine its own champion
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35460 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:07 pm to
SEC - NFC
Big10 - AFC

Everyone gets paid, nobody goes to class. (Most shouldn't even be there, if its about aptitude like the rest of the,student body has to be scrutinized).

Why are we going to do this BCS thing and painfully slowly take 5-10 years to get to where WE ALL KNOW where it's going.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11768 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Teams outside of the BIG/SEC barely deserve to be in the discussion at this point.


Imagine being stupid enough to think this lol
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11768 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 3:13 pm to
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guarantees a first-round bye to any team, division or conference before the season starts


This is absolutely 100% the dumbest thing that any sport or league has ever thought of.

Posted by ChiTownJ
Member since Sep 2019
19 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:03 pm to
Breaking away sounds great until it isn't. Yes, more money but there is a lot of crap involved with managing minor sports. Plus, using wrestling as an example, I imagine the Cornell's, Pittsburgh's, Iowa State's, and other wrestling schools aren't going to schedule the Big 10. We are the best and baddest in wrestling but not too keen to wrestling our own with Missouri and Oklahoma with no or limited tournaments. Minor sports are littered with solid schools not in the Big 10 or SEC.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
251 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:07 pm to
What I find funny in all this is that SEC fans talk trash on Notre Dame for wielding their power just like they are wanting the SEC to do. SEC fans are just mad because Notre Dame has more power than they do even though they’ve been mediocre on the field in years. It’s just hilarious. Notre Dame has their own network because they are a National fanbase that is a money machine. Even with all the Natties, the SEC remains regional with regional fanbases. Notre Dame doesn’t have to join a conference, They are a 1 team conference and there is nothing the SEC or BIG can do about it. They will get an invite into whatever size playoff that they approve because the TV execs want them. All they gotta do is be decent. Sure, they’ll lose on the field but they’ll win at the bank and that is all that matters. Natties come and go but money and power stay.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 7:10 pm to
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A source told ESPN


This cracks me up. ESPN is the source of all of this.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13932 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:14 pm to
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TCU did recently beat Michigan to make the title game. So to say they shouldn’t even be in is a stretch.



Not to mention those national championships by Clemson where they beat the best team in the SEC.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:31 pm to
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Why would the Big Ten have as many automatic qualifies as the SEC???
Should be zero outside of top 5 ranked conference champs.

But the Big Ten is adding Oregon and Washington, both of which have played in a national title game in the playoff era. And USC, whose brand is still living off the Pete Carroll glory days. So they stack up depth wise with the SEC
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 8:32 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47509 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:35 pm to
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TCU did recently beat Michigan to make the title game. So to say they shouldn’t even be in is a stretch. Not to mention those national championships by Clemson where they beat the best team in the SEC.


Everything that happened in the past will be irrelevant when the Big Ten and SEC start making double what other conferences make
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