re: Bengals first round pick Shemar Stewart is working out with Texas A&M

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Because most of the time the teams don’t call the bluff and either don’t take the player or trade them. Elway and Eli come to mind

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Elway could have signed with the Yankees, meaning a chance the Colts get Jack shite for him.

Eli’s leverage would have simply been that his dad and brothers could have bankrolled him for a year to try again, but that would have been a very big risk for him IMHO.

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They require you declare for the draft and as such forfeit your amateur status

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Again, what makes you think Amateur status will hold water TD challenged?

He wouldn't get drafted next year. The NFL would blacklist him.

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you get drafted in the NBA, they own your pro rights to play in the NBA indefinitely.

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Under the current NBA CBA:

If the team makes a required tender, they own the rights until the next draft. There are only two extension possibilities

First, if the player signs a pro contract in another league. Then Article X 5b has a notification the player has to make when they want to enter the league, the club has to make a tender by a certain date, and the 1 year clock starts again. Many of the exclusive negotiation rights stories about Euros fit in this bucket. They stay in the euro leagues and never make the notifications of “We Coming”. When they do, if they are any good, then the team makes the tender offer. If they go back to the Euro league thereafter, the rights are preserved.


Second, if it’s an “Early Entry player,” the team owns the exclusive negotiation rights until the player would have been draft eligible. If they play college ball, they get draft year plus one year. If not they just get to draft year. There are also required tenders during this period. “Early Entry players” are anyone that doesn’t meet core draft eligibility requirements and notify the NBA they want to be in the draft. A few nuances, but it’s largely US college age players

Thus, you can defeat the NBA rights by a full year off from pro ball for non NCAA players; sitting out until your draft year if you quit or don’t go to college, or 1 year sit out of no pro ball, if you go back to college after trying to get drafted early. The NBA shut off most of the player high leverage situations, but exclusive negotiation rights (aka draft rights) are still defeasible Of course, if you truly want to be a free agent, then you have to be prepared to sit out 2 years. If the original drafting club loses their rights, you just go back in the draft. You only have to endure two drafts though

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Rent free

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I’m still amazed that people get the meaning of this so absolutely confused on a seemingly daily basis lol

Makes sense though from a school desperately seeking any sort of relevance lol

Is this the guy that is holding out because the Bengals put in an extra/unusual clause in his contract?

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I’m not saying it will. What I responded to is why would the NFL even be involved… that’s why they’d be involved

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I’m not following you.

Why would the amateur status of a player change the NFLs position?

Obviously, the NFL wants to prevent this from happening. But there’s no real logic to why the NFL would have any voice into how the NCAA implements rules surrounding amateur status. If the NCAA said it doesn’t care about amateur status, or a player makes a claim that the NCAA can’t care about amateur status, explain why the NFL would have a voice in that.

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This is where the universities themselves schools step in and require the athlete to be a full time student, attending class either in person or online, and make sufficient grades throughout the year in order to be on an athletic team.

That way it wouldn’t matter the ruling against the NCAA.

However, we all know the nutless universities won’t do that.

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Everything I've seen to make this happen, is that it would have to come from the conferences. Which makes sense. I really don't understand what changed in regards to needing to be required to be an active student.

A normal student can't just leave school, not take classes, and automatically get reinstated. There's a process for that, and you have to stay eligible. Or at least there was when I was in school.

Now, the conferences don't want to do this so and lose a competitive edge. But I'd think if the SEC got with 1 or 2 of the other big dogs they could get it done.

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Possibly from a point of view that only certain people qualify for the draft?

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Who is challenging his eligibility for the draft?