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re: Bengals first round pick Shemar Stewart is working out with Texas A&M

Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7461 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:35 pm to
As much as I want to blame the 8&4 fit this is the Bengals they are a shitty front office
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71292 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:35 pm to
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Don't they not at least go into next year or was that fake news?

pretty sure they maintain rights to the player, at least as far as the NFL is concerned, until the following draft.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149496 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:36 pm to
Damn. Didn't realize that
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
6539 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:43 pm to
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"A guy who has had some good (Texas) A&M stuff in the past, he hit me, he's like, 'Hey, Shemar might end up back here . . . He's been at College Station. He's been fully involved in workouts,'"


Helluva source.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25162 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Lake08


Let us know when you win literally anything.

Rent free better describes how every Aggie has a little brother complex with any school that pays attention to them.

We never wanted to be your big brother, go back to bothering the longhorns
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9729 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Damn. Didn't realize that


Bo Jackson was drafted by the Bucs 1st overall back in 1986, and was drafted again by the Raiders 1987. Basically how it works with NBA, NFL, and MLB.
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
7356 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 3:09 pm to
I wonder how much the Texans fully guaranteed contract they gave their rookie WR is going to effect this stuff going forward
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46136 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 3:23 pm to
Yeah that opened up a can of worms, almost none of the second rounders are signed because of it.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10877 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 3:29 pm to
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quote:
"It may not be legal yet, but everything in the NCAA ecosphere is subject to litigation," Elliott said about a return.


Losing a first round pick would be a big blow to an NFL franchise. I wonder if litigation could go the other way as well.
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
7356 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 3:50 pm to
Maybe they should make a portion of it guaranteed as standard contract language. These guys do have a short shelf life
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4031 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 3:50 pm to
I lose interest in college football more every year.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65383 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 4:23 pm to
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Losing a first round pick would be a big blow to an NFL franchise.


For most teams? Yes. For the cheap Bengals who probably can't afford to guarantee pay a first round pick?...

I've never seen an NFL organization run so poorly. They went all in for Burrow Chase and Higgins and said "oh well, we'll figure everything else out later".
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78776 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 4:30 pm to
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They went all in for Burrow Chase and Higgins and said "oh well, we'll figure everything else out later".


That’s how it works with a hard salary cap
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65383 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 4:48 pm to
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That’s how it works with a hard salary cap


The problem is not the cap. It's owner cash flow. The bengals owner is relatively poor and the team is one of the least valuable in the NFL. Burrow, Chase, and Higgins alone are guaranteed $372 million in the next 5 years. NFL teams have to escrow fully guaranteed money from these contracts the day they're signed.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78776 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:00 pm to
It works hand in hand. If you’re low on cap space, you can guarantee more, restructure, add void years, etc.

But you also can’t have more than a 1/3 of your cap tied up in 3 players, which they currently do for 2025.

Re-signing Higgins was dumb.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62091 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:14 pm to
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This seems like a situation the NFL, NFLPA, and college football would all want to avoid being litigated.



That's maybe true. What's the reason the NFLPA would care? The NFL obviously cares. The NCAA on the other hand probably doesn't want it because they like the relationship they have with the NFL. They have been the defacto minor leagues and have made a ton of money. But, this isn't a bad thing for the NCAA product.

Regardless, how could the NFL and NFLPA have an argument in this conversation? How could they make the case that they have any control over a person not in the union and not a player in the NFL.

If the NCAA were to fight it, I don't know how they'd win when they have lost every other case.

Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78776 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:50 pm to
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If the NCAA were to fight it, I don't know how they'd win when they have lost every other case.


Well he’s probably not academically eligible unless he was in school while training for the combine and draft.

Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14746 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:52 pm to
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Bud Elliot is an attorney and a co host of one of the biggest college football podcasts who’s been absolutely locked in on all these lawsuits.


lulz, take a break from the interwebs
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37122 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:57 pm to
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I lose interest in college football more every year.


Because nothing has happened yet?
What a pussy!
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37122 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:59 pm to
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Regardless, how could the NFL and NFLPA have an argument in this conversation? How could they make the case that they have any control over a person not in the union and not a player in the NFL.


They require you declare for the draft and as such forfeit your amateur status
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