re: Baylor has fired Art Briles

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And the whole "Good for Baylor" sentiment? frick that - you don't get a cookie for doing the decent thing. The Baylor BOR didn't FINALLY clean house out of Christian goodness and decency - they had to be dragged into the light, kicking and screaming the whole way because they had a metaphorical gun to their heads.

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Deadspin nails it

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Baylor Is Full Of shite

The press release was a press release, and the conference call ended up being nothing more than talking points read aloud, with sporadically thrown-in apologies. President Ken Starr (yes, that Ken Starr) isn’t getting fired, it turns out, but will still be around as a tenured professor at the law school and a chancellor whose job duties include “religious liberty.” Football coach Art Briles is “suspended,” and they’ll get around to firing him eventually. Some people have been fired from the administration and athletics, but Baylor regents refuse to give out any names or even details, like how many were let go. The most specific thing said about changing athletics was some PR bullshite about how they will “review policies and protocols regarding transfers and recruits as well as opportunities for Athletics personnel to integrate across non-athletics programs within the University.”

Just how much more do the two “reports” released today tell us? Only slightly more than nothing.

It’s just a long list of things Baylor promises to do better in the future, raising the question of what Baylor has done to earn anyone’s trust on this. At best this document reads like the top-level report before the detailed review that never comes.

You can read the second so-called report, the Board of Regent’s “finding of fact,” here. It contains almost no facts; it has no names, no timelines, no dates, no specific examples; and it has no quotes from anyone who was interviewed or selections from emails or documents that were cited. Yes, it levies some horrifying allegations—that administrators discouraged people from reporting, that there was a failure to respond to reports that were levied, and that in one case “those actions constituted retaliation against a complainant for reporting sexual assault”—but it doesn’t say it in anything more than the broadest possible language.

I listened in on the Baylor press call earlier today. Before the call started, we all had to say our name and our affiliation. Later, in the background I could overhear the people running the call lining up who they would call on. Reporters did try asking tough questions, like why was Starr still there and what role Baylor police played in all this, but the people on the call, including several regents and a person from Pepper Hamilton, refused to answer. They kept saying they were sorry, as if it were a magical word that would absolve them of all wrongdoing. Like everyone else in this mess, they refused to do anything on anything other than their own terms.

They also made sure to point out that they are a Christian university, including their “Christian mission” among the bullet points in their press release. Because after all this—after the lies, the coverups, the arrests, the convictions, and the silence—Baylor still has the audacity to cite its Christian mission, oblivious to the fact that if it followed that mission no one would be talking about this in the first place. Baylor can change the names, fire a few people, and release all the fraudulent reports it wants, but where improvement really starts is in showing, at minimum, the ability to give a shite. And giving a shite entails more than just saying “Sorry” over and over again.

If Baylor cared, it would open up about what it did wrong. It would give names, timelines, dates, and specifics, because you can’t apologize without saying what you did wrong. This isn’t a new concept. The New Testament talks plenty about compassion, forgiveness, and atonement. Perhaps Baylor’s leaders should try reading it sometime.

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Did he get arrested? Was he even charged?

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Did you read what I said? Yes he was arrested. Yes he was charged with Rape. Even after this, it was somehow still shielded from the media and Ukwachwu stayed on campus and finished his degree. U

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Why is the woman complaining to Baylor? where's the police?

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Uh, She did go to the police. The DA was forming a case against him at the time and the woman was traumatized because she had to see her rapist around campus.

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anytime any kid on campus is accused of a crime, kick him out?

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Legal proceedings take months, sometimes years. Just because the person can post bail and hasn't been convicted yet doesn't mean that the school shouldn't take precautions to ensure the other students are safe. Do you also believe that if Aaron Hernandez was able to post bail and wasn't convicted yet that he should have been able to still play football? Because he is 'innocent until proven guilty'?

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They sorta just didn't prioritize reports of players misbehaving and just had a few bad incidents in a short period of time, and in today's hyper sensitive PC "rape culture" world they were going to pay a price for it.

Crucifying them fits a convenient media narrative.

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I don't think they really did anything all that terrible.

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this fricking board

Good on Waco, your move Tallahassee.

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so an innocent person has to pay for consequences of unfounded allegations?

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Bro, THEY LET A PERSON WHO WAS CHARGED WITH RAPE REMAIN ON CAMPUS. TAKE CLASSES IN THE SAME BUILDING AS THE PERSON HE ALLEGEDLY RAPED. What is wrong with 'suspended indefinitely pending criminal trial'? Christ, the idiocy.

Also, unfounded allegation? If the District Attorney brings rape charges against you, in no way, shape, or form can you still call the allegations 'unfounded'.

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i don't think they did anything that terrible

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they did

the potentially harmful behavior was having agents of the team talk to potential victims

the question is how many criminal investigations were prevented by this

what we do know is once a player was indicted, they were suspended from the team pending completion

one of those players is suing baylor for being expelled without a conviction, mind you

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the potentially harmful behavior was having agents of the team talk to potential victims

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and by encouraging the women to not come forward. And by making the victims lives hell at school