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re: Basketball foul: touching the hand after the shot is in the air

Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:56 am to
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:56 am to
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Not for what we're discussing. We're talking about someone impeding follow through after the ball leaves, not a shooter willfully not following through.



You didn't understand the analogy of the runner. It's the same as the shooter.

I'm out. Y'all don't get it.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:56 am to
quote:

We're talking about someone impeding follow through after the ball leaves.


Which is exactly what walls tend to do. Impede.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:56 am to
quote:

You didn't understand the analogy of the runner.


I get it. It's just not equivalent to what we've been talking about here.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:57 am to
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Which is exactly what walls tend to do.


Which has what to do with running through the line? Goodness, LE's stupid has apparently rubbed off on yall.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:57 am to
LNCHBOX, the only thing I can think is that you didn't read the part in his post about an invisible wall. An invisible wall is an exact comparable force to a wrecking ball.

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Which has what to do with running through the line?


That the reason running through the line is effective has nothing to do with what happens after you cross the line. Just like following through being effective has nothing to do with what happens after the ball is no longer touched.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:59 am to
I'm not talking about that part. I only took issue with the running through the line part. lsupride got it.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:00 pm to
We're taking about WHY shooters follow through and WHY runners run past the line.
Posted by TheMuffinMan
Arlington, VA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:00 pm to
Right, and "not following through" is what is making Lester's brain implode because he's heard following through is important for x y and z his whole life. But "not following through" is a crime the shooter commits when he does it to himself, which would affect the shot because it affects his application of force to the ball while it's still on his hand. If he's fouled after it's released, he still did everything right relevant to the shot, so it's not that he "didn't follow through" it's that "his follow through pose got interfered with" in a more literal sense.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:01 pm to
LNCHBOX- the guy that is going to teach his kids the knuckleball shot....well, because rotation has no affect on accuracy
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:01 pm to
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lsupride got it.


Got what? He called you out for being an idiot and saying the exact same thing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:02 pm to
Rotation is imparted after the ball has left your hand.

LE
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:03 pm to
It couldn't be more clear what I took issue with. But please go on.

ETA Him and I ended up saying the same thing. because I didn't read all the way, I was unnecessarily further clarifying what he clearly already said.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 12:05 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:04 pm to
Exactly what I figured
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 12:06 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:05 pm to
Comprehension isn't really your thing huh?
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:05 pm to
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he's shooting a wide open 3. I assume he was able to follow through and land without any contact
Speaking of deflection...
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Comprehension isn't really your thing huh?


What? I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you were not an idiot but just saying illogical shite because you didn't read it fully. How is that on my comprehension when you continue to insist upon your incorrect point being clear and others understanding it?
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 12:38 pm to
I hate the fact that on defense you can't have your hands on them but on offense you can throw your stiff arm out there to shield the defender
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:22 pm to
The reason you follow through is because you have to release the ball without slowing down. If you don't follow through with your wrist, then you are slowing your hand down. The follow through allows your wrist to maintain the proper speed throughout the motion so that the ball rolls off your fingers nearly the same every time.

But once the ball is gone from your hand, you can be hit by a truck and it won't matter.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:27 pm to
Yea, it's not like once the ball goes off of your finger tips you can twist your hand a certain way and change the motion of the ball
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 1:33 pm to
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Yea, it's not like once the ball goes off of your finger tips you can twist your hand a certain way and change the motion of the ball

Not true. If you lean to the right or left, it will go that way. Like telling a golf ball to stop. It works.
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