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re: Basketball foul: touching the hand after the shot is in the air

Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:42 am to
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You're not even trying anymore.



Hell of a deflection there.

Posted by Gtothemoney
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:42 am to
I'm so enjoying this thread.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:43 am to
Check out the white boy pic I posted.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:43 am to
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It helps with the stroke and accuracy BEFORE release, not AFTER.




at least you can admit it has something to do with accuracy. Bravo to you
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:43 am to
There's no point. You're goingto say ridiculous thing after ridiculous thing regardless of how many times logic smacks you straight in the face.

I'm better served eating my lunch. Troll on.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:44 am to
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at least you can admit it has something to do with accuracy

Last one. So you're saying follow through happens before the shot now?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:45 am to


Explain to me Lester how the shot will be effected now that it has left his hand
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 11:46 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:46 am to
You're not even trying anymore
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:46 am to
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Explain to me Lester how the shot will be effected now that it has left his hand



he's shooting a wide open 3. I assume he was able to follow through and land without any contact
Posted by TheMuffinMan
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:47 am to
Following through is important because it creates a reference start and end point to the shot that is repeatable and can be ingrained as habit. Yes the motion of flicking the wrist forward puts rotation on the ball, and consistently following through promotes accuracy by standardizing the shot so that there are as few other variables as possible, but these things only occur as the hand is still touching the ball. Following through ensures that you do the middle stuff right as opposed to cutting the shot off short YOURSELF.

It's like people telling runners to run through the line. If someone impedes your follow through after you release the ball, it's exactly like a runner hitting an invisible wall erected one inch past the finish line. Their time will be exactly the same, just as the shot will be unaffected. But you're trained to do it so you do the stuff right before it right and don't anticipate slowing down or stopping your wrist.

Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:48 am to
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he's shooting a wide open 3. I assume he was able to follow through and land without any contact
No explain to me how he shooting his hand with a gun at this very moment would effect the shot. Do it
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:49 am to
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It's like people telling runners to run through the line. If someone impedes your follow through after you release the ball, it's exactly like a runner hitting an invisible wall erected one inch past the finish line. Their time will be exactly the same, just as the shot will be unaffected. But you're trained to do it so you do the stuff right before it right and don't anticipate slowing down or stopping your wrist.
This is a great analogy. Lets see how Bro Science 101 argues this
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:49 am to
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It's like people telling runners to run through the line


Not it's not. If you don't "run through the line," you'd slow down. Someone hitting your hand after shooting is nothing like that.

A better analogy would be a runner unknowingly getting hit by a wrecking ball right after crossing the line.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:51 am to
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A better analogy would be a runner unknowingly getting hit by a wrecking ball right after crossing the line.
Did you not read his post? He literally said that exact thing
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:51 am to
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No explain to me how he shooting his hand with a gun at this very moment would effect the shot. Do it







like this?

i dont get the question
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:52 am to
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like this?

i dont get the question
Boom. I knew that picture would get you to finally understand
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:52 am to
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Not it's not. If you don't "run through the line," you'd slow down. Someone hitting your hand after shooting is nothing like that.


Not running through the line is like not following through.

Hitting an invisible wall one inch past the line is like getting fouled after release.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:53 am to
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Did you not read his post? He literally said that exact thing



I need my food.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:53 am to
The runner thing is prob the best analogy ive seen in the thread, and while I agree with the premise, Im not sure shooting a ball is as controlled as a runner crossing the finish line. I'll have to think about that more.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:54 am to
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Not running through the line is like not following through.



Not for what we're discussing. We're talking about someone impeding follow through after the ball leaves, not a shooter willfully not following through.

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