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re: Basketball foul: touching the hand after the shot is in the air
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:17 am to shel311
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:17 am to shel311
quote:Well he can, but didnt you know this is Lester:
So you are on record as saying you can control the accuracy of the ball after the ball is released and no longer touching your hand?
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:18 am to shel311
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If you didn't know the wall was there and your hand hits the wall AFTER you release it, there's no effect.
right, you perfect & hone your mechanics for years, but when all of a sudden it is impeded, it's not going to affect the outcome. That's rich
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:19 am to Lester Earl
quote:It is impeded AFTER the ball has left your hand. Therefore, ZERO effect
right, you perfect & hone your mechanics for years, but when all of a sudden it is impeded
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:19 am to Lester Earl
quote:But affecting the accuracy of a ball set in motion no longer in your possession, that totally makes sense.
right, you perfect & hone your mechanics for years, but when all of a sudden it is impeded, it's not going to affect the outcome. That's rich
2/5/15, we'll all remember the day LE crashed and burned on the MSB.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:22 am to Lester Earl
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Imagine there was imaginary wall that goes up at the exact time you release a ball. Any momentum that your hand/wrist/arm had is stopped immediately by this wall.
It's not anticipation that is going to affect that throw, or shot.
Holy shite. This is reminiscent of the meatheads arguing how many days were in a week.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:23 am to shel311
quote:
So you are on record as saying you can control the accuracy of the ball after the ball is released and no longer touching your hand?
No, Im saying part of being able to shoot an accurate ball has to do with being able to have the correct follow through.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:24 am to Lester Earl
quote:So you are saying that what happens after the ball leaves your hand changes the path of the ball?
No, Im saying part of being able to shoot an accurate ball has to do with being able to have the correct follow through.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:24 am to Lester Earl
quote:So once the ball has left your hand, no longer touching it, how can you affect the outcome/accuracy of the ball if you are no longer touching it?
No, Im saying part of being able to shoot an accurate ball has to do with being able to have the correct follow through.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:24 am to shel311
quote:Are you not a Jedi bro?
So once the ball has left your hand, no longer touching it, how can you affect the outcome/accuracy of the ball if you are no longer touching it?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:25 am to Lester Earl
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No, Im saying part of being able to shoot an accurate ball has to do with being able to have the correct follow through.
You don't think the shooter's hand was moving in such a way as to have the correct follow through just because his hand gets hit after the shot?
Are you arguing the shooter is changing his mechanics to anticipate being hit after the ball leaves his hand?
Are you slow?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:25 am to lsupride87
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It is impeded AFTER the ball has left your hand. Therefore, ZERO effect
yea, because you only follow through in order to exert force.
-The MSB
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:26 am to Lester Earl
Once the ball leaves your hand, the follow through has no effect.
It's important pre release but not post.
It is part of the shooters rhythm though which makes it important but it doesn't any actual effect on accuracy or english.
It's important pre release but not post.
It is part of the shooters rhythm though which makes it important but it doesn't any actual effect on accuracy or english.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:27 am to Lester Earl
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yea, because you only follow through in order to exert force.
-The MSB
Um, yeh. What do you think rotation is caused by? Unequal application of force on different parts of the ball.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:27 am to Lester Earl
quote:You can change the accuracy of a shot while not touching the basketball.
yea, because you only follow through in order to exert force.
-The MSB
- LE
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:27 am to KosmoCramer
quote:Not if you have "the force" though
Once the ball leaves your hand, the follow through has no effect.
It's important pre release but not post.
It is part of the shooters rhythm though which makes it important but it doesn't any actual effect on accuracy or english.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:27 am to shel311
quote:
how can you affect the outcome/accuracy of the ball if you are no longer touching it?
It depends. Is my hand getting hit at this moment?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:27 am to Lester Earl
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yea, because you only follow through in order to exert force.
Why else do you follow through? To look cool?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:28 am to Lester Earl
quote:If stephs hand gets hit after picture three, zero effect on the ball. ZERO
It depends. Is my hand getting hit at this moment?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:28 am to Lester Earl
That moment isn't the follow through. The ball is still touching him. I'll give you props on the dedication to this troll though.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:28 am to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
FTR, I understand what your'e saying.
Take any great shooter and make them shoot 100 shots where the follow through is abrubtly ended by contact, VS 100 shots with a clean follow, and you'll see a huge variance in the shot percentage.
I can't explain the physics of it, and alot of it is likely assciated with the mental aspect and muscle memory, but you're not wrong, which is why it's a foul.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 11:30 am
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