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re: Basketball foul: touching the hand after the shot is in the air

Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:04 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:04 am to
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Try putting rotation on a basketball without a follow through
Once the ball has left your hand, the rotation has already been set in motion
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:05 am to
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Your motion up until the release of the ball will be exactly the same.


And a shot doesn't end with the release of the ball.

throwing a football doesnt end with the release of a ball.

Throwing a baseball doesn't end with the release of a ball.

Imagine there was imaginary wall that goes up at the exact time you release a ball. Any momentum that your hand/wrist/arm had is stopped immediately by this wall.

It's not anticipation that is going to affect that throw, or shot.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:06 am to
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And a shot doesn't end with the release of the ball.

throwing a football doesnt end with the release of a ball.

Throwing a baseball doesn't end with the release of a ball.
YES IT frickING DOES

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Imagine there was imaginary wall that goes up at the exact time you release a ball. Any momentum that your hand/wrist/arm had is stopped immediately by this wall.
THE ball will go exactly the same
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:06 am to
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Imagine there was imaginary wall that goes up at the exact time you release a ball. Any momentum that your hand/wrist/arm had is stopped immediately by this wall. 
If you didn't know the wall was there and your hand hits the wall AFTER you release it, there's no effect.

This can't even be real life right now.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:07 am to
It doesn't effecct your follow through on that shot but it would for the next 1 because you would be anticipating the slap on the elbow or hand
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:07 am to
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If you didn't know the wall was there and your hand hits the wall AFTER you release it, there's no effect.

This can't even be real life right now.
It is astounding he cant figure this out
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:07 am to
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It doesn't effecct your follow through on that shot but it would for the next 1 because you would be anticipating the slap on the elbow or hand
Agreed
Posted by BuckeyesAndBulldogs
Athens, Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3236 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:08 am to
Yeah, I know? I never implied that.

I responded to someone who said that a pitch would be no different without a follow through or something since the ball is already out. I looked back at the comment and it's poorly worded and I have no clue what the person was trying to say.

I understand that if you have no clue anything is going to happen then it will not affect the shot. That is never the case really though. Read what I posted to the original post. I don't know what you are fighting right now.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:09 am to
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I understand that if you have no clue anything is going to happen then it will not affect the shot. That is never the case really though. Read what I posted to the original post. I don't know what you are fighting right now.
We are good then Look at Lester, he thinks the ball will be effected. I thought you were arguing the same as him
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290911 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:10 am to
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Once the ball has left your hand, the rotation has already been set in motion



Of course, but it doesn't mean it has the same accuracy. frick yall are dumb
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:11 am to
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frick yall are dumb
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15965 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:11 am to
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If you didn't know the wall was there and your hand hits the wall AFTER you release it, there's no effect. This can't even be real life right now.


Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80531 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:12 am to
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Of course, but it doesn't mean it has the same accuracy


What?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:13 am to
Archbishop Rummel High School: Home of bro physics






I still like you Lester but you deserve some ribbing for this
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15965 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:14 am to
I have always viewed it this way... the shooter is allotted the space directly above him. Once his arm in extended out of this area and the ball has departed, he is no longer protected. The only additional protection bestowed upon the shooter is his ability to come down without breaking his ankle.
Posted by BuckeyesAndBulldogs
Athens, Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3236 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:15 am to
Ha nah. He is just being stupid.

I think of this way. I had a friend who always poked me in the stomach right after I shot. I could never make that shot because I was waiting for the poke, even though it wasn't a foul or really should not have affected my shot.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:15 am to
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Of course, but it doesn't mean it has the same accuracy
So you are on record as saying you can control the accuracy of the ball after the ball is released and no longer touching your hand?

Did I get that right?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:15 am to
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I think of this way. I had a friend who always poked me in the stomach right after I shot. I could never make that shot because I was waiting for the poke, even though it wasn't a foul or really should not have affected my shot.
I agree with you. I like the rule
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:16 am to
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I think of this way. I had a friend who always poked me in the stomach right after I shot. I could never make that shot because I was waiting for the poke, even though it wasn't a foul or really should not have affected my shot.
Right, that's the anticipation angle, which makes total sense.

That ship has sailed for LE, that's been brought up probably 10 times and he's never said that's his reasoning. He's not using that angle at all.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:16 am to
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Of course, but it doesn't mean it has the same accuracy. frick yall are dumb


I really hope you're trolling. In fact, you have to be. 10/10 great job.
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