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Baseball Reference now showing Negro League stats as major league stats
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:54 pm
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:55 pm to Sun God
Manfred recognized them as major leagues.
I just wish he'd gone up to 1952 instead of 1948. Hank Aaron would be in first place again.
I just wish he'd gone up to 1952 instead of 1948. Hank Aaron would be in first place again.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:59 pm to Sun God
Long time coming. This issue with not including these stats for years wasn't racism as many would like to believe, just data integrity. Large gaps in games, nonsensical figures, etc..
Last I checked, it had taken them over a decade to clean up all the stats the best they could.
Last I checked, it had taken them over a decade to clean up all the stats the best they could.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:00 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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data integrity. Large gaps in games, nonsensical figures, etc..
Sounds pretty racist.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:09 pm to Sun God
Everyone knows Negro League stats are mostly guesswork.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:12 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Professional baseballs newest WHIP leader according to BR pitched 22 innings during WW2 
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:15 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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Long time coming. This issue with not including these stats for years wasn't racism as many would like to believe, just data integrity. Large gaps in games, nonsensical figures, etc..
Last I checked, it had taken them over a decade to clean up all the stats the best they could.
Yep! No way to verify those 120 mph fastballs from Satchel Paige.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:18 pm to Sun God
Dumb
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:24 pm to Sun God
PANDERING PANDERING PANDERING. I wonder how these recipients feel? I’d feel like a BELITTLED BAW
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:30 pm to Sun God
Anyone with Negro League stats added gets an asterisk*
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:32 pm to Mr. Elvert
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I wonder how these recipients feel?
Almost all of them aren't feeling much these days.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:42 pm to Sun God
Birmingham had an MLB team
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:22 am to Sun God
No women's baseball league stats included?
He's ticked
He's ticked
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:25 am to Sun God
I'd be curious to know how many are verified stats vs word of mouth type of stuff. In the early days a lot of these players played against townies. They need to be acknowledged as they are important for the history of the game but their stats should be separated like baseball reference does for those coming from overseas.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:26 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Everyone knows Negro League stats are mostly guesswork.
More like mythological. Nobody knows what really happened in the League. It's a shame.
There was a concerted effort by the black free press to pump up the Negro Leagues to gain acceptance...
And they outdid their white counterparts in hyperbole which was no small feat in the 1920s...sell, sell, well.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 8:28 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:48 am to Sun God
Dumb in my opinion. The Negro League was a different league. That doesn't mean the players weren't awesome, because they showed they were once in the Major leagues.
Have a separate wing in the Hall and sperate data set highlighting them. Doesn't downplay anything they accomplished, it's just not the same.
Have a separate wing in the Hall and sperate data set highlighting them. Doesn't downplay anything they accomplished, it's just not the same.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:48 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
This… my issue would be the quality of play. If the Negro Leagues can be a major league, why not make the SEC a major league 100 years from now? They’re almost certainly getting paid.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:07 am to chalmetteowl
Ken Burns can research the hell out of anything...
But in his baseball doc, the Negro League stories come across as yarns.
Great ballplayers but there was no rigorous record keeping.
And some of the venues were basically sandlots.
Negro League stats are in the ether. Prejudice made them untrustworthy to fault of their own. The history is just weak.
But in his baseball doc, the Negro League stories come across as yarns.
Great ballplayers but there was no rigorous record keeping.
And some of the venues were basically sandlots.
Negro League stats are in the ether. Prejudice made them untrustworthy to fault of their own. The history is just weak.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 9:09 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:13 am to Amadeo
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Yep! No way to verify those 120 mph fastballs from Satchel Paige.
Not having Satchel Paige in MLB during his prime is one of the great tragedies in baseball history.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 11:30 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Dumb in my opinion. The Negro League was a different league. That doesn't mean the players weren't awesome, because they showed they were once in the Major leagues.
Have a separate wing in the Hall and sperate data set highlighting them. Doesn't downplay anything they accomplished, it's just not the same.
Totally agree.
Is it a shame they weren’t in the MLB? Yes!
This is not righting a wrong. It’s changing facts.
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