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Barry Bonds is the GOAT Baseball Player

Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:34 am
Posted by TigerLifer18
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:34 am
Barry Bonds is the greatest Baseball player to ever live. He’s the best hitter of all time, he beats out Ruth, Aaron, Mays, Cobb, Williams etc.

Bonds won 3 MVP’s in the early 1990’s without ever using steroids. 2 with a separate franchise (Pittsburgh) he was a 40-50 SB guy in his youth, and is one of the better defenders in Major League History with 8 gold gloves. He has more HR’s than any player in history.

Bonds strikeout to walk ratio is off the charts. From 1991-2007 Bonds had more walks than strikeouts every year. His plate discipline and eye were always tremendous even before the steroids. “But you couldn’t pitch to him his walks are inflated” so by definition Bonds was so feared as a hitter it was best to walk him every time he came up to the plate?

Bonds was the best player in baseball at the time where everyone else was taking steroids. You can argue he took them like everybody else to remain the best. Bonds is the greatest hitter who has ever lived, and won a whopping 7 MVP’s including 4 straight. Bonds, and Pete Rose deserve the HOF, especially if we can turn a blind eye to guys like David Ortiz because he’s got a beloved personality.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 11:37 am
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10658 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:10 am to
I'm not sure you can put a guy in that openly broke the rules. Then again...MLB may as well put him in, though, if they aren't going to ever punish the Astros for cheating.
Posted by TravisKelces Bandaid
Member since Feb 2024
266 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:11 am to
First page.

And for the record, I agree that Barry Bonds is the greatest hitter I have seen in my lifetime.

This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 2:13 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35355 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:30 am to
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Bonds was the best player in baseball at the time where everyone else was taking steroids.


Uh no...go away with that Lance Armstrong argument. How many rings does he have? Nobody wanted to play with him. He had a few co-stars on his team that hated him.

Joe DiMaggio – 9 Rings ...
Lou Gehrig – 8 Rings ...
Babe Ruth – 7 Rings ...
Mickey Mantle – 7 Rings ...

Bonds never elevated his team...in fact he blew it on the Pirates because he had a girls arm and couldn't throw out the slowest motherfricker who ever played major league baseball.

Hitting bombs while juiced is not the definition of greatness.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 2:38 am
Posted by TigerLifer18
Member since May 2023
1845 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:44 am to
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Joe DiMaggio – 9 Rings ... Lou Gehrig – 8 Rings ... Babe Ruth – 7 Rings ... Mickey Mantle – 7 Rings ...


It’s laughable to mention rings in an argument for how great a baseball player is. It’s the ultimate team game and the sport with the most parity.

To mention a bunch of Yankees players rings who played with some of the most stacked squads in baseball history, and compare it to Bonds having none is ridiculous.

By your definition Bill Russell is the GOAT of Basketball.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19765 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:48 am to
Bonds was my favorite as a kid
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9753 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:46 am to
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not sure you can put a guy in that openly broke the rules.


He didn't break any rules. They did not have a drug testing policy at the time.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34033 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:31 am to
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Bonds is the greatest hitter who has ever lived

Ted Williams says hello.

But I agree with your overall point. Barry should be in the HoF
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34033 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:33 am to
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I'm not sure you can put a guy in that openly broke the rules.

That's the thing though, Barry was already a HoF'er before he started drugging.

He should be in.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34033 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:35 am to
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Bonds never elevated his team..



Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17857 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:38 am to
It would have been nice to see his career stats with his normal frame. I mean I know he did very well before he became the Hulk, but he would not have hit the number of HRs he had throughout his career if it weren’t for tripling in size.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15633 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:38 am to
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Bonds won 3 MVP’s in the early 1990’s without ever using steroids


First piece of evidence is stating what he did before cheating. That alone tells you he isn’t the goat.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48623 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:40 am to
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Barry Bonds is the GOAT Baseball Player

It’s true.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35355 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:43 am to
People without facts refrain to the old debate method of comparing their opposition to Hitler....its a cheap out....

Now, laughing emoticons are the new Hitler argument. Nothing to say, no coherent, intelligent response. So it goes.

His teammates hated him from Arizona State to S.F.

He didn't elevate, inspire like a Kirk Gibson who bereated the team in training camp for the laughable Dodgers shitty attitude and said, "I'm gonna be the the best teammate you ever had."

And they won the World Series.

Barry Bonds never won because it was all about him. So laugh all you want but I have history on my side...and the terrible stories of him being a Cancer in the locker room....that's no GOAT.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 5:50 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29051 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:11 am to
I’d pay money to watch his Cooperstown speech.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9223 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:11 am to
Mickey Mantle is the greatest player of all time.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48623 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:18 am to
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Mickey Mantle is the greatest player of all time.

He was good, but he was no Bonds. He wasn’t even better than Aaron.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34033 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:24 am to
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Mickey Mantle is the greatest player of all time.




Hank Aaron and Willie Mays would say otherwise.

A lot of ice cold takes ITT.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5653 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:26 am to
Not even in the same ballpark with Mays, Griffey Jr. or Mantle.
Bonds was a very selfish player, his legacy besides the steroids should be allowing Sid Bream to score.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9223 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:29 am to
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Hank Aaron and Willie Mays would say otherwise.


Hank Aaron? Hank Aaron????

I’ll give you Mays as being possibly as good as Mantle. But Hank Aaron was not.
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