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Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:07 pm to MakeMoney
Player dump?
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:07 pm to MakeMoney
Bummer hits free agency after the 2024 season, so this move makes zero sense unless we wanted to open up MLB roster spots for bigger moves.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:09 pm to Broski
Yeah.. the only reason that makes sense to me.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:10 pm to 21zereaux
And frick, I really liked Lopez as a utility infielder. Damnit, no more Team Nicky.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:10 pm to Broski
Y’all just got fleeced by the most dysfunctional organization in baseball ????
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:10 pm to 21zereaux
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Player dump?
It clearly is. Got rid of a bunch of guys who likely were never going to play a roll moving forward and likely get non tendered anyways
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:16 pm to 21zereaux
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/braves-acquire-aaron-bummer-in-six-player-deal.html
I don’t understand why a team with so few options in the minors is dumping their somewhat tradable pitchers, and some potential long term project infielders, and a minor leaguer. The return is nothing worthwhile based on the stats, so I guess we will see. It is an odd time to release a trade notice as well. What else is going on?
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The White Sox have traded reliever Aaron Bummer to the Braves for pitchers Michael Soroka and Jared Shuster, infielders Nicky Lopez and Braden Shewmake and minor leaguer Riley Gowens.
I don’t understand why a team with so few options in the minors is dumping their somewhat tradable pitchers, and some potential long term project infielders, and a minor leaguer. The return is nothing worthwhile based on the stats, so I guess we will see. It is an odd time to release a trade notice as well. What else is going on?
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:16 pm to Broski
Passan says he’s under Club Control through 2026
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:17 pm to VinegarStrokes
I still feel like we could've leveraged Soroka for something better. There is definitely some team out there that thinks they can bring him back to his former glory.
Regardless, imagine telling a Braves fans after the 2019 season that, 4 years later, we'd be trading him to the Chicago White Sox as part of a package for a reliever that had an ERA nearly 6.
Regardless, imagine telling a Braves fans after the 2019 season that, 4 years later, we'd be trading him to the Chicago White Sox as part of a package for a reliever that had an ERA nearly 6.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:25 pm to Broski
*nearly 7 
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:32 pm to dhuck20
quote:
Passan says he’s under Club Control through 2026
DOB said he hits FA next season.
idk.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:34 pm to Broski
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He’ll make $5.5MM next season in the final guaranteed year of the aforementioned extension. He is guaranteed a $1.25MM buyout on a $7.25MM club option for 2025, while the deal also contains a $7.5MM team option (with a matching buyout) for the ’26 season.
From https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/braves-acquire-aaron-bummer-in-six-player-deal.html
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:34 pm to Broski
Club option for 2025
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:36 pm to 21zereaux
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He’ll make $5.5MM next season in the final guaranteed year of the aforementioned extension. He is guaranteed a $1.25MM buyout on a $7.25MM club option for 2025, while the deal also contains a $7.5MM team option (with a matching buyout) for the ’26 season.
Ah, well there is no way in hell we pick up those options
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:36 pm to 21zereaux
Shoei to Atlanta confirmed
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:41 pm to dawgfan24348
Balking on Lopez' $4m option only makes sense if we are going for a starting SS to bump Arcia back down to the UI role or for a starting LF.
Else why wouldn't you pay such a cheap deal for a dude on the bench who could field every position in a pinch?
I'm going to be livid if we have a Sam Hilliard equivalent player on our bench in Lopez' place making the league minimum.
Else why wouldn't you pay such a cheap deal for a dude on the bench who could field every position in a pinch?
I'm going to be livid if we have a Sam Hilliard equivalent player on our bench in Lopez' place making the league minimum.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:47 pm to Broski
Braves obviously coveted Bummer or they would have just non tendered Lopez and Soroka. Would be interested from the White Sox perspective to know how they valued the optionable guys. I would guess Gowens and maybe Shuster were their primary targets and it turned into this as Braves were cleaning up the 40 man. Bowman indicated the Braves never even considered tendering Soroka so I’m sure every team in the sport was made aware he was available for very little.
Bummer’s Baseball Savant page is interesting. No walks and no barrels. Really good breaking ball. Very similar to the Pierce Johnson profile.
Gowens sucks to lose potentially but Soroka/Lopez were going for nothing and the other 2 guys blow.
Bummer’s Baseball Savant page is interesting. No walks and no barrels. Really good breaking ball. Very similar to the Pierce Johnson profile.
Gowens sucks to lose potentially but Soroka/Lopez were going for nothing and the other 2 guys blow.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:51 pm to volfan30
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Gowens sucks to lose
There are at least 5 arms in our farm that project better than him so I'm not sure how much of a future he had with us, but it is wild that we had to throw him in as a sweetener when we already were giving up 4 other guys for a reliever the White Sox were more than likely looking to dump.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:54 pm to Broski
Ideally Arcia is on the bench. I’m on the same page as you that he is not an every day SS.
But if Arcia is the starting SS I think paying somebody $800k to fill that Lopez role in April/May/June makes more sense than locking up Lopez. I would much rather have $4m of flexibility than rostering both Nicky Lopez and Orlando Arcia for a full season. If you need to go get somebody there are a million Nicky Lopez’s out there. Hell, you will probably be able to get Nicky Lopez himself back in July if necessary. But ideally the $4m goes to Sonny Gray or someone like that and Charlie Culberson can be the mascot for a few months for $800k.
But if Arcia is the starting SS I think paying somebody $800k to fill that Lopez role in April/May/June makes more sense than locking up Lopez. I would much rather have $4m of flexibility than rostering both Nicky Lopez and Orlando Arcia for a full season. If you need to go get somebody there are a million Nicky Lopez’s out there. Hell, you will probably be able to get Nicky Lopez himself back in July if necessary. But ideally the $4m goes to Sonny Gray or someone like that and Charlie Culberson can be the mascot for a few months for $800k.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 11:56 pm
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