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Posted on 10/26/23 at 7:19 pm to VinegarStrokes
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Cringiest thing I've seen on the internet today.
Yep. Anyone who’s been watching baseball longer than 5 minutes knows how big a deal blisters can be for pitchers.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 10/26/23 at 7:31 pm to Undertow
Keep in mind, RunningJacket is the same guy in the offseason thread last year that said Grissom would be a net improvement over Dansby at SS.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 7:47 pm to VADawg
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Including Yelich is one way to bring the cost of this trade down
Yelich just put up 4+ WAR last year, why exactly do you think including him would reduce the cost exactly?
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:18 pm to Broski
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Keep in mind, RunningJacket is the same guy in the offseason thread last year that said Grissom would be a net improvement over Dansby at SS.
Yikes.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:40 pm to 257WBY
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And AJSS very well might pitch in the playoffs for the next eight seasons.
Or he might be the next Folty, Allard, Sims, Mueller, Wisler, Newcomb, Touissant, etc “prospect” who turns in to a journeyman or quad a pitcher.
Of course, the Braves have scouted him and probably have a much better idea of that than an old message board poster like me.
Just my .02 there have been a lot of guys come thru the system who the Braves seemingly held on to rather than trading high on as “prospects” who simply didn’t pan out.
The Braves are in a window of contention that gets a little tighter after Fried leaves next year. If they only come away with one WS title in this run, it will be considered a failure.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:55 pm to lsusa
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Just my .02 there have been a lot of guys come thru the system who the Braves seemingly held on to rather than trading high on as “prospects” who simply didn’t pan out.
And there have been a lot of high prospects that we've hit on which is why we've won the division for 6 straight years... welcome to the MLB. Every team has prospects that pan out and don't pan out.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:59 pm to Broski
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Which is why I'm not sure why the Brewers would do this.
They are more likely to buy than sell right now.
IMO, Woodruff being out all of next season completely changes how they're going to approach it. This is Burnes's last year of arbitration. Last season was the last time they'll ever have Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta in the same rotation.
ETA: Counsell might be gone too. With the Reds and Cubs on the way up, it feels like a time where they might try to retool things a bit.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 8:14 am
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:00 pm to lsusa
That's why Coppy went w/so much pitching during the rebuild. He knew the hit rate wasn't great so he went w/volume and it worked out more than it failed. Yes, he had his failures, but when he hit(Fried, Soroka pre-injury, Minter) he hit big.
Posted on 10/26/23 at 9:00 pm to auyushu
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Yelich just put up 4+ WAR last year, why exactly do you think including him would reduce the cost exactly?
His contract is going to be an albatross for them. He's not the same guy who was a foul ball off his kneecap away from winning back to back MVPs, and I believe the Brewers would looooove to get that deal off their books.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 12:38 am to Broski
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And there have been a lot of high prospects that we've hit on which is why we've won the division for 6 straight years... welcome to the MLB. Every team has prospects that pan out and don't pan out
My post was in response to another poster about the potential of giving up AJSS in a deal for a front line starter - he said that AJSS might make starts in 8 consecutive postseasons….
My point is that you can’t overly fall in love with the idea of “prospects” because most don’t pan out. That doesn’t mean you should just devalue anyone who is a prospect either. It’s a balancing act.
Looking at the Braves prospects who have graduated, I think it was pretty clear to everyone that Acuna, Albies, Riley and Harris were “untouchable” very early on. Strider as well. Obviously they paid a high price to get Fried.
AJSS doesn’t strike me as a guy who seems can’t miss and untouchable. Maybe it clicks for him, maybe it doesn’t.
Posted on 10/27/23 at 1:53 am to lsusa
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Acuna, Albies, Riley and Harris were “untouchable” very early on. Strider as well. Obviously they paid a high price to get Fried.
Acuna and Harris were like the only "can't miss" of this bunch. Albies and Riley were rated prospects but they were definitely not sure things.
Strider especially wasn't thought of as anything other than a career minor leaguer until his fastball gained like 5 mph and he went from A-ball to MLB in one year in 2021.
This post was edited on 10/27/23 at 3:28 am
Posted on 10/31/23 at 6:04 pm to Broski
Phillies reporter from The Athletic is saying that we're in on Nola.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 6:18 pm to Broski
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 7:05 pm to Broski
Let’s give him that Morton money.
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:39 pm to Broski
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Phillies reporter from The Athletic is saying that we're in on Nola.
Not sure how I feel about this. This seems like it could backfire horrifically. Nola is a slightly above average pitcher who turns into Cy Young only when he pitches against the Braves.
A big part of the problem against the Phillies is that they have four key guys on their roster who historically step their game up several levels when the Braves are on the other side: Wheeler, Nola, Harper, Turner.
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:17 am to VADawg
The bigger problem is that our team is scared of them and plays like it.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:36 am to sorantable
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The bigger problem is that our team is scared of them and plays like it.
Well yeah, there's that too.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:48 am to sorantable
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The bigger problem is that our team is scared of them and plays like it.
Let's hope that changes next October.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:08 am to ApexHunterNetcode
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Wouldn't it only need disclosure if anything? It would simply change the allocation of capital and where free cash flow is used
Correct
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