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LSUFanHouston
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
Paying more attention to this today since I wasn't going to let this ruin my Monday.

I'm struggling with understanding, if this "cheating" was so bad and so rampant, why are the only two people suspended, those who were arguably the furthest away from it?

I understand WHY Hinch and Luhnow were suspended (although I think Lunnow getting a year is insane). But I don't understand why other players and coaches, the ones involved, didn't get any suspensions.

This smacks so much of Bountygate. Most teams do it... Astros got caught because of a disgruntled person. Meanwhile, in Bountygate, all the player suspensions were eventually thrown out due to lack of evidence... Manfred didn't even both suspending players here... which tells me there is a lack of evidence.

So, how can MLB say these two knew about the program, didn't stop it, didn't participate in it, and not suspend any of the actual participants?

Just like Bountygate allowed Rog to show he was really in charge, this is Manfred's first chance as commissioner to show he's the HNIC.


Jmentum7
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2020
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
Couldn’t happen to better bunch of douchebags


TheCorelton
Michigan Fan
Member since Oct 2013
614 posts

re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
Astros fans lol.

This is like going out to the bar with your buddies and they all go home with 10s and you go home with a 1.

Then your argument is "doesn't matter had sex". Maybe so, but ain't nobody giving you a high five over that one "champ".


Chad504boy
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
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why are the only two people suspended, those who were arguably the furthest away from it?
accountability starts at the top


Damone
Colorado State Fan
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Member since Aug 2016
19107 posts

re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
Their series "win" is officially tainted, if it isn't vacated altogether.


Drew Brews
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
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if it isn't vacated altogether.


Lol


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LSUFanHouston
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
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accountability starts at the top


Starts.

Doesn't end at the top.

Now, if these two ordered other players / staffers to cheat, then I would understand, but that didn't happen. This was a bottom-up operation.

EDIT: LINK

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Manfred's report named Beltran as one of the players involved in the scheme, though the league did not discipline him because it gave players immunity in exchange for their testimony.

That choice registered publicly as another curious part of Manfred's ultimate decision. What sort of disciplinary action clears players for a "player-driven" scheme? The answer is a practical one. Between the well-defined lines that held GMs and managers responsible and the fear of the Major League Baseball Players Association defending any discipline against active players and sending the cases into grievance hell, Manfred's pragmatism here, though not satisfying, is understandable.


So Manfred knew he probably wouldn't get any discipline out of the players, so he turned them into snitches.
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Lsuhoohoo
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
A championship was awarded yesterday in the hours after this news. It still wasn't the Dodgers.



ForeverEllisHugh
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4995 posts

re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
I don’t get firing them - do what the saints did with bountygate: have a shite year and then you get your coach back.


stat19
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Member since Feb 2011
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I don’t get firing them


Is the Saints owner butt buddies with Obama like the Astros owner?

If not, then there's your answer.


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cramps
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
The banner still hangs, but keep crying about it.


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dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
37400 posts

re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
Good, fricking lastros need to go back to their rightful place.


UltimateHog
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Member since Dec 2011
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
Cora now gone as well.


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gthog61
Georgia Tech Fan
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Member since Nov 2009
50125 posts

re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
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A championship was awarded yesterday in the hours after this news. It still wasn't the Dodgers.


just like the Reds victory in 1919


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McMillan
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Member since Jul 2018
1488 posts

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It's as valid as the 1972 USSR's basketball title.


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Ibleedblackandgold
New Orleans Saints Fan
Back in Louisiana where I belong
Member since Jun 2009
2504 posts

re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
Should have their title stripped. Cheating arse team. frick the Astros and their shitty fans!!


stat19
Houston Astros Fan
Member since Feb 2011
27273 posts

re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
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Should have their title stripped. Cheating arse team. frick the Astros and their shitty fans!!




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Ibleedblackandgold


I bet you just draw up in knots when you’re the only person of your race in room. Makes you uneasy... all those people around. After all, if you’re going to get angry and stereotype by a little thing like fandom, race probably really gets under your skin.
How simple you are.


WestCoastAg
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
Boy. That escalated quickly


stat19
Houston Astros Fan
Member since Feb 2011
27273 posts

re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
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Boy. That escalated quickly


I have little tolerance for idiots that make statements like she made.


FightnBobLafollette
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re: Astros got Hammered; GM and Manager Fired
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Is the Saints owner butt buddies with Obama like the Astros owner?

If not, then there's your answer.



Are you retarded?


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