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re: Are the Astros a dynasty?

Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:31 pm to
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But doesn't change the fact the Astros are cheaters, period. Sling insults at will - they cheated to win their first title, and probably did it again.


What a bizarre puritanical world view. Should every playoff loss by the White Sox since 1919 be called into question? There are only 5 players on the 2022 team that were on the 2017 team and 2 of those are pitchers (the “cheating” was sign stealing after all). It’s also intellectually lazy to say they are still cheating with zero evidence or even credible accusation.

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MLB is a sham/scam from top to bottom, and as you've alluded, have tolerated cheating in various forms since its inception, though the past 20 years have seen some blatant cheating that has been ignored by everyone in MLB


If it was allowed/ignored and done by everyone how is it “cheating”. Singling out the Astros then is blatant hypocrisy and bias.

This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 9:16 am
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
194381 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:40 pm to
I love the hate


will debate if someone tries to use logic to explain feelings'


but I LOVE the hate, it motivated the team and ....please "other" team fans do it again
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11133 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:57 pm to
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Melt pussy

Your reply makes me sense that I struck a nerve. Could it be that the nerve was hit because you are to soft to admit I am right? Funny how former players on that team admit that they don’t count it.
Posted by miori
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
45 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:46 am to
Yes.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61488 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:49 am to
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but I LOVE the hate, i

They hate us cuz they anus.
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
5113 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:16 am to
I'm sure personal resentment had nothing to do with it.

To act like other teams can hold some sort of moral high ground especially when it comes to sign stealing is ridiculous.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60711 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:12 am to
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Funny how former players on that team admit that they don’t count it.


Link?
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
27422 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:44 am to
Fiers was so upset that he accepted his ring, and played for 2 more years before he talked.

And only after getting fricking shellacked in 2019 did he decide to speak.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:55 am to
First response. Nice job tool
Posted by Cannon
Shreveport
Member since May 2015
1900 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:56 am to
Of course not. You need to win at least 3 in 5 years or so. Ala the team of last decade, the San Francisco Giants.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32045 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:05 am to
Most ironic thing I've ever seen on this board here is crmzon constantly claiming cheating even though he's a fricking Alabama fan.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60711 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:10 am to
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Most ironic thing I've ever seen on this board here is crmzon constantly claiming cheating even though he's a fricking Alabama fan.


The best part he said “once a cheater always a cheater”. Alabama has been on probation before, they vacated all their wins from 2005-2007 so by his logic all their titles after are not valid because they are cheaters
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 10:11 am
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
5113 posts
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:46 am to
Yes, I wish the anti Astros crowd would just admit they don't like the Astros for whatever reason instead of trying to throw out a weak moral argument.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 10:47 am
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11133 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:37 pm to
There was an article that I read that was about a pitcher that was on a team that had playoff hopes. The pitcher stated that he wanted a WS ring because the one he won with Astros doesn’t count because of the cheat.
Sorry, don’t have a habit of saving links to articles about known cheaters to satisfy fans of cheaters.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60711 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 10:13 am to
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There was an article that I read that was about a pitcher that was on a team that had playoff hopes. The pitcher stated that he wanted a WS ring because the one he won with Astros doesn’t count because of the cheat.


A pitcher, as in one guy? There are only 5 left on the Astros from 2017.

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Sorry, don’t have a habit of saving links to articles about known cheaters to satisfy fans of cheaters.


In other words I don’t have proof of my claim so I’ll just resort to name calling/deflecting
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 10:22 am to
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Stros better overall

Giants may have one more ring now but would miss the playoffs every other year

Astors have either made it to the ALCS or WS every year since 2017

Which would you prefer as a fan?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60711 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 10:32 am to
Can’t really answer until the Astros run is over and we don’t know exactly when that will be yet. They do have multiple titles now and generally speaking I’d rather be in the ALCS every year than missing the playoffs every other year
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 6:25 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55560 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:30 pm to
It was Musgrove, who had minimal impact on that WS run. Then he was shipped off in the Cole trade.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Singling out the Astros then is blatant hypocrisy and bias.


yes. its silly.

there has always been sign stealing.

and substances used by pitchers to create breaking ball.

always.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

You need to win at least 3 in 5 years or so. Ala the team of last


lincecum did not get in hall in first eligibility.
was brilliant a while. fell apart.
bumgartners last one was all time.
yes they were a dynasty.
Posey may get in.
ankle injury changed his career.
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