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Are people going to take the Total Quarterback Rating seriously?
Posted on 8/6/11 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 8/6/11 at 2:54 pm
Or is ESPN just being gay again?
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Posted on 8/6/11 at 2:56 pm to The Boat
it might catch on if they use it during MNF telecasts this season
Posted on 8/6/11 at 2:57 pm to The Boat
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ESPN just being gay again
This
Posted on 8/6/11 at 2:58 pm to The Boat
They need to leave this nerdy stat stuff to the Baseball dorks.
I don't need some dumb statistic to tell me who I think is a better QB. I can see with my own two eyes and make my own determination, just like everyone else should.
I don't need some dumb statistic to tell me who I think is a better QB. I can see with my own two eyes and make my own determination, just like everyone else should.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 2:58 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
ESPN's acting like they came up with the theory of relativity here.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 2:58 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
i cant believe the production they are going thru to pitch this stuff
Posted on 8/6/11 at 2:58 pm to The Boat
I never cared for the passer rating statistic and I still dont give a shite about total quarterback rating. I dont understand why ESPN is trying to force this on us. It sounds just as complicated as the passer rating. The only qb statistics I care about are: td, int, sacks, yds, completion%
Find a way to combine those 5 and come up with a number.
Find a way to combine those 5 and come up with a number.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:02 pm to The Boat
It takes some stuff into account that passer rating ignored. Giving more weight to a 50 yard pass for a TD than a 5 yard pass followed by a 45 yard run for a TD, for example.
It punishes QBs for shitty offensive line play and subjectively tries to quantify "pressure situations" though, so it's still a highly flawed statistic.
It punishes QBs for shitty offensive line play and subjectively tries to quantify "pressure situations" though, so it's still a highly flawed statistic.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:03 pm to nosaj56
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it might catch on if they use it during MNF telecasts this season
You can pretty much count on them cramming it down your throat during every game, Sportscenter, and NFL Live this season.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:06 pm to J Murdah
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The only qb statistics I care about are: td, int, sacks, yds, completion%
no ypa?
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
that too.
what about yac? I dont really think that measures qb ability as much as it does the reciever. but a good qb can put the ball in a good spot for the wide out to make a play after the catch.
what about yac? I dont really think that measures qb ability as much as it does the reciever. but a good qb can put the ball in a good spot for the wide out to make a play after the catch.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:24 pm to The Boat
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Are people going to take the Total Quarterback Rating seriously?
Absolutely not. All this thing is is Gruden and Jaws picking apart every single thing possible. Granted, a few things are interesting but the 4-letter network bothers the shite out of me.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:46 pm to The Boat
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Or is ESPN just being gay again?
ESPN's analyst invented this stat. so you can rest assured they will pimp this thing out all season.
I doubt you hear this on any other network
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:50 pm to Toula
It bothers me that they ignore other people's research. Sabermetrics built up because it was a community of people reading and refining each other's research. But to come up with a stat and completely ingore the work of Pete Palmer and Football Outsiders strikes me as inane.
ESPN missed the boat on sabermetrics and now they are missing it on football analytics, but in a different way. What's funny is that football GM's have been far more accepting of mathematical research.
ESPN missed the boat on sabermetrics and now they are missing it on football analytics, but in a different way. What's funny is that football GM's have been far more accepting of mathematical research.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:55 pm to Baloo
They're acting like this is the biggest and best revolution in football statistics ever. ESPN has power and knows it. They love taking credit for the work of others.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:57 pm to xenythx
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They need to leave this nerdy stat stuff to the Baseball dorks.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 3:59 pm to Baloo
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Baloo
The worst part about it is the use football outsider research in their articles and KC Joyner also has some interesting ideas. It seems like their entire organization can clusterfrick sometimes.
Posted on 8/6/11 at 4:01 pm to Baloo
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. But to come up with a stat and completely ingore the work of Pete Palmer and Football Outsiders strikes me as inane.
Football Outsiders essentially had this stat developed essentially 5 years ago.
Except it was BETTER!
ESPN is saying this is the most comprehensive QB rating system available.
FO does this already and even accounts for the opponent. Meaning, you get a better rating for performing better against the Jets/Steelers than say the Lions/Texans
Posted on 8/6/11 at 4:01 pm to Baloo
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It bothers me that they ignore other people's research. Sabermetrics built up because it was a community of people reading and refining each other's research. But to come up with a stat and completely ingore the work of Pete Palmer and Football Outsiders strikes me as inane.
it is stupid
the worst part is them saying shite like "it was created by a team of experts" and then they list jaws and merril fricking hodge
Posted on 8/6/11 at 4:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
don't forget Trent Dilfer
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