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Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the Chargers
Posted by Mud_Till_May on 12/16/20 at 6:32 pm414
. Eli was right
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It's been 12 years since the San Diego Chargers made Eli Manning the No. 1 overall pick in the 2004 NFL Draft, and to this day, not much is known about why Manning refused to play in San Diego. Just days before the draft, Manning's agent Tom Condon, told the Chargers that Eli would sit out the entire 2004 season if the team drafted him with the first overall pick. At the time, former Chargers general manager A.J. Smith partly blamed Eli's dad, Archie Manning, for the mess. "[Condon] told me that Archie wishes that we do not select Eli and that they think he would be a good fit in New York (with the Giants)," Smith said in 2004, via the San Diego Union Tribune. "We understand his position and certainly understand his interest in New York, but we will do what we think is the best for the franchise." There were a lot of theories on why Eli didn't want to play for the Chargers. The Union-Tribune reported that the Manning camp didn't want Eli's career to end up like Archie's. The elder Manning spent 11 years in New Orleans and never had a winning record with the team. Going into 2004, the Chargers were on an ugly run and had only put together a total of four winning seasons since 1983. Although Archie has long been viewed as one of the main instigators in Eli's decision, he recently disputed that notion. In an interview with the Rich Eisen Show, Archie said he had nothing to do with Eli's threat to sit out the season if the Chargers drafted him. "It was a decision that Eli and Tom Condon kind of made, but Eli ultimately pulled the trigger on that and that's what he, doing his due diligence, decided to do," Archie Manning said. "I can't say it was pleasant from our end. Most people thought I orchestrated it, but I didn't. I don't tell my kids what to do or make their decisions." In Archie's version of the story, Eli came to him for advice, but never asked him directly what he should do. "It's a tough deal. It's hard. That was the only thing I told Eli when he told me he was going to do that," Archie said. "Think about it hard. If that's your conviction and what you want to do, then that's fine, and that's what he did." In the end, the Chargers would end up drafting Eli with the No. 1 overall pick and trading him to the Giants. However, before the trade went down, Eli had to pose for what will likely go down as the most awkward draft day photo in NFL history. eli-chargers-nfl-draft-06-27-16.jpg This might go down as the most awkward draft photo of all-time. Getty Images Things got so awkward before the Giants trade went down that Eli actually said he would rather go to law school than play for the Chargers. In the end, the trade did go down and everyone came out a winner, according to Archie. Eli went to New York and the Chargers came away with Philip Rivers plus several draft picks. "I think everybody came out good on the deal," Archie said. "The Chargers sure got a mighty good quarterback that day. Eli's happy in New York." The truth is that we may not ever know why Eli refused to play for the Chargers and that's mainly because it doesn't sound like he's ever going to tell us. In 2013, before the Giants played in San Diego, Eli was asked why he didn't want to play for the Chargers. His answer? "I forgot." It's been theorized that the Manning camp didn't like the way the Chargers handled quarterbacks -- Drew Brees had a rough first two seasons in San Diego, and that came after the Ryan Leaf debacle. There's also the possibility that Condon thought the Chargers wouldn't be a good fit. At the time, Condon represented the Chargers coach (Marty Schottenheimer), quarterback (Brees) and running back (LaDainian Tomlinson). Ironically enough, the Chargers are one of only three teams that Eli Manning has never beaten in his career, along with the Colts and the Giants.
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by CatfishJohn on 12/16/20 at 6:39 pm to Mud_Till_May
Archie is awesome. Seems like a world class father and man. Recommend The Book of Manning for those that haven’t seen it.
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by SDVTiger on 12/16/20 at 6:40 pm to Mud_Till_May
Could have just said the Spanos Family are massive slimy a holes and everyone would understand
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by Ed Osteen on 12/16/20 at 6:48 pm to Mud_Till_May
You should work for buzzfeed
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The truth is that we may not ever know why Eli refused to play for the Chargers and that's mainly because it doesn't sound like he's ever going to tell us.
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by Honkus on 12/16/20 at 6:52 pm to Mud_Till_May
holy wall of text. can i get some of cliff's notes?
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa on 12/16/20 at 6:53 pm to Mud_Till_May
That post made me seasick.
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by Hazelnut on 12/16/20 at 7:10 pm to Mud_Till_May
I learned no details in that post. What a let down
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by burdman on 12/16/20 at 7:20 pm to Mud_Till_May
Worked out for everyone in the end. Both teams got franchise qbs for the next 15 years.
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by SportsGuyNOLA on 12/16/20 at 7:24 pm to Mud_Till_May
Archie and Eli pulled this off like a boss.
John Elway (and his dad Jack) did too when he came out of college.
If you aren’t hurting for money, and you are a stud QB, you should have some say in which team you play for. A franchise can literally make or destroy a QB’s career.
Imagine if Joe Montana or John Elway would’ve played for a team like the Browns. Or Eli with the Chargers or Jags. They’d be nobodies, and (at best) had a career like Philip Rivers or Matthew Stafford.
John Elway (and his dad Jack) did too when he came out of college.
If you aren’t hurting for money, and you are a stud QB, you should have some say in which team you play for. A franchise can literally make or destroy a QB’s career.
Imagine if Joe Montana or John Elway would’ve played for a team like the Browns. Or Eli with the Chargers or Jags. They’d be nobodies, and (at best) had a career like Philip Rivers or Matthew Stafford.
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by Bench McElroy on 12/16/20 at 7:26 pm to Mud_Till_May
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At the time, Condon represented the Chargers coach (Marty Schottenheimer), quarterback (Brees) and running back (LaDainian Tomlinson)
This was the real reason why Eli didn't play for the Chargers. It was all orchestrated by his agent. Archie himself alluded to it saying that it was "Eli and Tom Condon's decision". The relationship between Marty and the Chargers front office was already starting to go downhill plus drafting Eli would have hurt the earnings potential of another Condon client, Drew Brees.
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re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by KosmoCramer on 12/16/20 at 7:26 pm to burdman
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Worked out for everyone in the end. Both teams got franchise qbs for the next 15 years.
San Diego actually got 2.
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by WaterLink on 12/16/20 at 7:43 pm to Mud_Till_May
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However, before the trade went down, Eli had to pose for what will likely go down as the most awkward draft day photo in NFL history
Funny because thats a pretty normal occurrence in the NBA draft
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by H-Town Tiger on 12/16/20 at 7:48 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Imagine if Joe Montana or John Elway would’ve played for a team like the Browns.
Montana was a 3rd round pick and his 2nd year Browns QB Brian Sipe was NFL MVP. Elway beat the Browns 3 times to go to the Super Bowl so how exactly would he been worse off since he was the reason the Browns never made the SB
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had a career like Philip Rivers
2007 when Eli and the Giants won their first SB the Chargers were in the AFCCG they also had a year were they were 14-2 Eli’s SB they Giants just got hot in the playoffs. I can kinda see the point that at the time SD was bad with Brees and Leaf but they were fine during Rivers career, though Jacob Hester refers to the as the Bush league Bolts so they were still cheap
This post was edited on 12/16 at 7:49 pm
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by VADawg on 12/16/20 at 7:49 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Imagine if Joe Montana or John Elway would’ve played for a team like the Browns
Elway with the Browns in the mid-late 1980s would have won at least one Super Bowl. Those teams were loaded.
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by ClampClampington on 12/16/20 at 7:52 pm to Mud_Till_May
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by SOCAL TIGER on 12/16/20 at 8:01 pm to Mud_Till_May
frick the Manning’s!
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by SteelerBravesDawg on 12/16/20 at 8:50 pm to SOCAL TIGER
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frick the Manning’s
STFU!
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by Hurricane Mike on 12/16/20 at 9:13 pm to Mud_Till_May
I think the reason is Condon didn’t want to frick Brees and had an inside to the Chargers organization and how it was working. Like Archie said, it worked out for everyone, even Rivers
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by eddieray on 12/17/20 at 6:05 am to Mud_Till_May
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details on why Eli refused to play for the Chargers
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The truth is that we may not ever know why Eli refused to play for the Chargers and that's mainly because it doesn't sound like he's ever going to tell us.
Me: .....
re: Archie Manning gives details on why Eli refused to play for the ChargersPosted by I Bleed Garnet on 12/17/20 at 6:30 am to Mud_Till_May
4 years old?
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