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re: AP source: Jaguars void Fournette’s contract guarantees
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:20 am to BhamDore
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:20 am to BhamDore
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.51 at 240 is good,but not elite
As for Fournette, his biggest issues are in his head. Hopefully there is someone he trusts in his inner circle who is willing to tell him what he doesn't want to hear.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 10:23 am
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:25 am to Rou Leed
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This thing is going to be disallowed by players union. Voiding a rookie contract before its complete fricks up the salary cap rules and its not clear what happens on his next contract. Total stunt by Jags.
This
Even if allowed still a stunt
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:26 am to dukke v
I mean that's not relevant to Lester's point, but it is the reason he is struggling.
Vision concerns should be the red flag of all red flags when scouting running backs. That isn't something that's going to drastically improve when the competition is ramped up. There were clearly flaws in his game in college- but the size+speed combination will make scouts overlook deficiencies like that.
His ceiling is an average NFL running back that could potentially have 1-2 really good years in the right system. His raw athletic talent could potentially afford him that, but that diminishes quickly when you run the way he does. He'll get a 2-3 year prove it deal somewhere and then he'll be Carlos Hyde or Chris Ivory
Vision concerns should be the red flag of all red flags when scouting running backs. That isn't something that's going to drastically improve when the competition is ramped up. There were clearly flaws in his game in college- but the size+speed combination will make scouts overlook deficiencies like that.
His ceiling is an average NFL running back that could potentially have 1-2 really good years in the right system. His raw athletic talent could potentially afford him that, but that diminishes quickly when you run the way he does. He'll get a 2-3 year prove it deal somewhere and then he'll be Carlos Hyde or Chris Ivory
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:32 am to dukke v
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SO... His vision takes all that away............
His vision has nothing to do with his athletic ability PJ
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:39 am to Lester Earl
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His vision has nothing to do with his athletic ability PJ
But it has everything to do with him being an elite NFL RB........
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:42 am to dukke v
No one called him an elite RB
Posted on 12/31/18 at 10:52 am to Lester Earl
Doug Marrone confirmed the team did this just now
Y’all remember when Roquan Smith held out over the summer? This is why. Total nonsense.
Y’all remember when Roquan Smith held out over the summer? This is why. Total nonsense.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:00 am to DBG
It doesn’t really matter unless the cut him. Which I doubt would happen because he has trade value if they wanted to get rid of him
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:10 am to Lester Earl
It’s going to change NFL contracts though. The NFLPA is going to raise hell.
Roquan Smith was worried about being suspended for the new helmet rule that everyone was freaking out over in the preseason. He won, got his contract altered to have his money voided if suspended for 3 games.
A lot of players will hold out next summer if they have this Fournette language in their contracts. Book it.
Roquan Smith was worried about being suspended for the new helmet rule that everyone was freaking out over in the preseason. He won, got his contract altered to have his money voided if suspended for 3 games.
A lot of players will hold out next summer if they have this Fournette language in their contracts. Book it.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:13 am to DBG
The NFLPA won’t do anything they have no power. The players are so unorganized Let them holdout it’s their perogative but this language will get upheld even Doty won’t touch any case. He wouldn’t have touched the Smith case either.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:15 am to sms151t
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The NFLPA won’t do anything they have no power. The players are so unorganized Let them holdout it’s their perogative but this language will get upheld even Doty won’t touch any case. He wouldn’t have touched the Smith case either.
They have an imbecile for a leader.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:16 am to Lester Earl
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So what? ? he proved to be explosive regardless. He had the fastest recorded foot speed in the nfl last year on any singular play. The guy is a freak
When have you ever seen Fournette move a pile? If you have a RB at 240lbs you would expect him to move the pile, but his lower body strength is mediocre for a player that size.
He also tip toes a lot and has poor balance.
He is fast for his size, but it's not elite speed. Elite size/speed ratio is like Jadaveon Clowney who ran 4.53 at 266 lbs.
Fournette has good, but not elite straight line speed for his size. That's really it. I wouldn't classify that as having elite athleticism.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:17 am to Lester Earl
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Which I doubt would happen because he has trade value if they wanted to get rid of him
They are not gonna cut him when there is a team out there that would give a ton up to take a chance on a RB who has zero vision or cut back ability that needs an elite offensive line just to be effective..........
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:19 am to sms151t
I said they’d raise hell, not actually accomplish anything . Smith is a useless moron.
This will be on the players/agents
. Smith is a useless moron. This will be on the players/agents
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 11:20 am
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:21 am to dukke v
what are you trying to say
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:24 am to DBG
The frick?
You have guys who get drug suspensions who don’t get their guaranteed money voided.
Voiding Fournette’s guarantees over a brawl which involved him defending a teammate is horseshite.
You have guys who get drug suspensions who don’t get their guaranteed money voided.
Voiding Fournette’s guarantees over a brawl which involved him defending a teammate is horseshite.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:26 am to BhamDore
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Fournette has good, but not elite straight line speed for his size. That's really it. I
ok 
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:27 am to Lester Earl
Woah, I did not expect to see Henry on that list.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:30 am to Lester Earl
This post means NOTHING if you keep getting stopped at the LOS. Think about it Lester............
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:32 am to J Murdah
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what are you trying to say
You can't read????????
He is not that good... YES he will never amount to much in JAX.... He is the type of back that HAS to have a great o-line to be effective....
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