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re: Alonzo mourning says Jordan would average 50 today.

Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:21 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:21 am to
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we wont even get into statistical significance
Not even saying you're wrong on what you quoted here, but this just reminds me of the last time you brought up "statistical significance" with me, and how that played out for you.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108676 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:22 am to
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FG% is determinant of defense?
Uhh alot of it is yes

quote:

For your argument to hold, all players would have to shoot the same percentage in every decade.
What?

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:22 am to
With you not understanding the mathematics?

yeah, I remember that.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108676 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:23 am to
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What a fool, you cant even prove your point. But you're a mental midget on tRant...might as well extend your asshatery here too.
I barely even post on the rant Im sorry, but why do you think there is a 10 point scoring drop after the 80s?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112644 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:24 am to
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With you not understanding the mathematics?

yeah, I remember that
Or with you saying something wasn't statistically significant, you ran the numbers, and found something like every stat but 1 was actually statistically significant, you don't recall that?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:27 am to
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lol wut?


NBA League Averages by Season

It was so much faster paced when MJ was scoring a lot.

For example, the season that MJ scored 37.1 (86-87 season) the league average was 100.8 possessions, 88.8 FGAs, 30.5 FTAs, and 109.9 points.

This season the league average is 93.9 possessions, 83.5 FGAs, 22.8 FTAs, and 99.9 points.

The most striking difference though are the FT/FGAs. This season it is 0.206 compared to 0.262 in 86-87, which was the highest in ~ the last 60 years. It's doubtful that MJ would get to the free throw line more this season than his highest scoring season when that season was the anomaly for excessive FTAS.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108676 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:31 am to
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It was so much faster paced when MJ was scoring a lot.

For example, the season that MJ scored 37.1 (86-87 season) the league average was 100.8 possessions, 88.8 FGAs, 30.5 FTAs, and 109.9 points.

This season the league average is 93.9 possessions, 83.5 FGAs, and 22.8 FTAs, and 99.9 points.

The most striking difference thought are the FT/FGAs. This season it is 0.206 compared to 0.262 in 86-87, which was the highest in almost 60 years. It's doubtful that MJ would get to the free throw line more this season than his highest scoring season when that season was the an anomaly for excessive FTAS.
CptBengal is about to call yous stupid for posting facts. Just roll with it
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:31 am to
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CptBengal
Dropping knowledge
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:33 am to
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lsupride87


Buckeye and I get along quite well. He understands what he posts. Sadly you didnt realize that his post destroyed your idiotic statistical post from earlier.

sad really, you were too dumb to know what he posted.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:35 am to
He could, but I doubt he would be motivated to average 50 if it detracted from winning. Jordan was a very smart player. He did not take over games offensively unless it was necessary. I doubt he would waste the energy necessary to average 50 when using his teammates would simplify the task of winning games.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112644 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:38 am to
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He could
Sure, if he shot 45 times per game. He's not the only one would could get to 50 like that.

And that doesn't even factor in what the fatigue factor would do to these guys, by the 2nd half of the season, they'd be done, you'd see their FG% plummet.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:40 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33900 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:49 am to
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Sure, if he shot 45 times per game. He's not the only one would could get to 50 like that.


Exactly.

Does anyone really think that if Lebron set his mind to it he couldn't average 50 ppg? Who would do that though? His team wouldn't be very good and MJ's wouldn't either. That goes for any number of star players not playing in Wilt's era.

I took Zo's comment to mean that MJ could do it and have a championship caliber team, which I still maintain is absurd.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108676 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:50 am to
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sad really, you were too dumb to know what he posted
He posted the same thing I did
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:56 am to
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I just want to hear one person address the fact that the 80s had the worst defense in NBA history, as well has the most points scored in NBA history, and MJ couldnt come even close to 50 ppg. Explain how he would today.


No one can do this.

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:04 pm to
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sad really, you were too dumb to know what he posted
He posted the same thing I did


swing and a miss....care to try again?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108676 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:06 pm to
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swing and a miss....care to try again?
He posted the exact numbers I posted and simply added sentences to it. Are you this dumb or just play like it on the internet?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27873 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:24 pm to
Also, if we're talking extreme hypotheticals, opponents can play 3 guys on Jordan to prevent him from scoring 50 a game.
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
1963 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:35 pm to
this thread made my work day go by so much faster. I am 40 and remember the NBA from the late 80's/early 90's. No defense was played except by the Pistons or Knicks. MJ would not score 50 today. Athletically the players are bigger, faster, and can jump out of the gym unlike when MJ played where there was only a few that had his abilities. Everyone needs to take the blinders off. Dr. J approves of this message!
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:39 pm to
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The illegal defense rules kept the lane more open when Jordan played than it is now. So you are incorrect in saying the lane is more accessible now.
not exactly. you can zone up the lane, as Thibs and Rivers have shown to do.

It's funny how you guys who swear up and down how much more difficult the defense in todays NBA is talk out both sides of your mouth.

Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:43 pm to
What was the bulls record when Jordan scored 50+?
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