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re: Alabama Basketball Shooting - Brandon Miller Involvement
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:23 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:23 pm to TexasTiger08
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Bottom line: 99% of programs (coaches or ADs) would have announced they’d be sitting the kid until further notice. At the very LEAST, if he is 100% innocent, he’s not being succumbed to the brutal treatment he’s about to face. This may not be Penn State level, but it’s already at Baylor level.
To be fair Nate Oates is probably the biggest piece of shite in all of college basketball right now. So kind of expected from him.
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:24 pm to TexasTiger08
And it's also worth noting how this whole altercation started. The players instigated it and kept that shite going by showing back up after making a veiled threat towards Harris' boyfriend.
They literally walk away when she says she has a boyfriend and NONE OF THIS HAPPENS.
AL.com article
They literally walk away when she says she has a boyfriend and NONE OF THIS HAPPENS.
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Testimony from today’s court hearing show all involved had gone to Twelve25 Sports Bar that night.
Miller dropped Miles off at the club but did not stay because the line was too long.
After leaving the club, Harris, her boyfriend, Cedric Johnson, and her first cousin, Asia Humphrey, stopped at a nearby grill to get something to eat.
It was then they encountered Davis, who was dancing in front Harris’s Jeep.
Johnson told Davis that his girlfriend was not interested and to move along. “It got a little elevated,’' the detective testified.
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Culpepper said Davis said, “You don’t know who I am and what I do.’'
Miles and Davis walked away from the victim’s Jeep but later returned.
AL.com article
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:24 pm to More beer please
quote:Bringing someone their lawfully owned firearm because that person says they’re potentially in trouble from a bad actor isn’t the same as a 3rd party taking that gun from the owner and wildly pulling a murder
You said yourself he knew
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:26 pm to BluegrassBelle
All of that is why the thought of a self-defense case is almost illogical.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:29 pm to Smoke7024
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All of that is why the thought of a self-defense case is almost illogical.
The defense of their actions which very clearly facilitated the death of a woman is pretty abhorrent. It's like every Bama fan I've seen defending this blatantly ignores that they started the confrontation and continued it by going right back to the situation after walking away.
Did Miller commit a crime under Alabama statutes? Probably not. But that doesn't mean his behavior shouldn't have been addressed by his coach.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Bringing someone their lawfully owned firearm because that person says they’re potentially in trouble
Damn, I didn’t expect one of my excuses to be thrown out within a page.
Again…Miller may not be criminally charged. I doubt he will. But this is looking like the 08 Florida Gators. I’ve managed to go my 36 years of life without winding up in a situation like this, and I bet most others in here have as well.
Miller is an extension of a very bad culture. Right now, you have a coach who has made himself a national laughingstock, a player who is going to prison, and 2 others who were allegedly at the scene or in the area. The AD is also not looking good. Baylor basketball cleaned house for this. Baylor football cleaned house for less.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Bringing someone their lawfully owned firearm because that person says they’re potentially in trouble from a bad actor
Holy spinzone batman. Didnt know the phrase "wants smoke" means their in trouble from a bad actor. Urban dictionary should probably update their shite.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:31 pm to BluegrassBelle
Miller was unaware of that.
All he knew was his dipshit teammate left his firearm in his back seat and wanted it back to defend himself against some dude being threatening(Miles used gangster language).
We need to find out what Miller’s response to all of this was(the gangster text).
What Miller was saying and seeing on his dash cam.
And what Miller did and where he went after Miles got his lawfully owned firearm back.
We will be able to pass much more accurate judgement once we know those things. The DA has already seen and heard it all. We’ll get our turn soon enough.
All he knew was his dipshit teammate left his firearm in his back seat and wanted it back to defend himself against some dude being threatening(Miles used gangster language).
We need to find out what Miller’s response to all of this was(the gangster text).
What Miller was saying and seeing on his dash cam.
And what Miller did and where he went after Miles got his lawfully owned firearm back.
We will be able to pass much more accurate judgement once we know those things. The DA has already seen and heard it all. We’ll get our turn soon enough.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:32 pm to ReauxlTide222
would you be in favor of at the Spring All-Sports banquet for Alabama to institute "The Brandon Miller Sportsmanship Award?"
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:33 pm to More beer please
quote:He didn’t actually use “wants smoke”
Holy spinzone batman. Didnt know the phrase "wants smoke" means their in trouble from a bad actor. Urban dictionary should probably update their shite.
But even that could be construed as I need my firearm for self defense because this guy really wants to come at me.
But he didn’t use wants smoke. It was something hood for “this guy is being sketchy af” I think.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:34 pm to I-59 Tiger
He seems like a very humble and honorable competitor on the court.
Until we have more information on what he was thinking and doing during this terrible situation I think it would be foolish to name an award after him.
Until we have more information on what he was thinking and doing during this terrible situation I think it would be foolish to name an award after him.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But even that could be construed as I need my firearm for self defense because this guy really wants to come at me.
Buddy, just stop. This is pitiful.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:44 pm to TexasTiger08
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This would make an interesting case study on fanatics.
The two most common responses on here from Bama fans:
1. “You don’t even care about the victim!”
2. “Miller can’t be charged with anything!”
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Bottom line: 99% of programs (coaches or ADs) would have announced they’d be sitting the kid until further notice. At the very LEAST, if he is 100% innocent, he’s not being succumbed to the brutal treatment he’s about to face. This may not be Penn State level, but it’s already at Baylor level.
This board and website only gives a shite because the kid is a force on the team collectively hated most on here.
Some of us were around here when Jeremy Hill got arrested for fricking a minor and then got team voted right back into starting backfield. This is a case study for how fans are going to act when one of their own are in a gray area incident- and it's happened enough in the last decade that i've seen it from every prevalent fanbase on this site. The faux moral superiority from the LSU fanbase most of all- same one stealing from a fricking childrens hospital to pay football players- is peak comedy.
Welcome to SEC athletics- where we all do the same shite and play by the same rules and point and laugh when it's someone else's turn. Save the moral high ground
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:45 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But even that could be construed as I need my firearm for self defense because this guy really wants to come at me.
It's not self-defense when they showed back up to continue the altercation that they started.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
Miller had no part in that..
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:51 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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This board and website only gives a shite because the kid is a force on the team collectively hated most on here.
It’s a sports message board. If you want the target on your back, it’s best to not screw up.
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Some of us were around here when Jeremy Hill got arrested for fricking a minor and then got team voted right back into starting backfield.
This has been discussed
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The faux moral superiority from the LSU fanbase most of all- same one stealing from a fricking childrens hospital to pay football players- is peak comedy.
This has been discussed.
When it’s your time to face the word, deflections look bad. There’s plenty of threads on Jeremy Hill or the hospital fiasco. Go bump them if it’s what you want to discuss.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:03 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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SEC athletics- where we all do the same shite and play by the same rules and point and laugh when it's someone else's turn. Save the moral high ground
Honestly? This is my read on it. Sad situation all around. Thug behavior running amok.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:06 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And it's also worth noting how this whole altercation started. The players instigated it and kept that shite going by showing back up after making a veiled threat towards Harris' boyfriend.
They literally walk away when she says she has a boyfriend and NONE OF THIS HAPPENS.
You keep saying "the players". Davis wasn't a player, and Miles is still in jail on a capital murder charge. The whole article is written like shite. What do you want done to Brandon Miller in this case? A woman was killed on video- video the cops saw- and they didn't even detain Brandon Miller and he was never charged with anything. What do you want done?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Honestly? This is my read on it. Sad situation all around. Thug behavior running amok.
Everybody has shady boosters, gangbanger athletes, and slimy coaches. When it involves death and/or a possible coverup, it’s next level. That’s why the Penn State and Baylor stories still resonate with us. That’s why NMSU cancelled their remaining games.
It’s sad that it takes crimes that severe to do it.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:10 pm to ReauxlTide222
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We need to find out what Miller’s response to all of this was(the gangster text).
Well we know it wasn't, "You can come grab it if you need it," or "It's late, can I give it back to you tomorrow?"
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But even that could be construed as I need my firearm for self defense because this guy really wants to come at me.
You're saying that the self-defense was so necessary the guy needed his weapon but not so significant that the guy should have left the area?
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Miller had no part in that.
You said this in response to someone saying the shooter went back to the scene after the altercation had started. I think it's definitely possible they don't go back to the person they're arguing with if the weapon isn't brought to them.
Again, if the DA chooses not to charge Miller based on the information they have, that's their decision. To imply that Miller shouldn't be held accountable by his coach for putting himself in a situation like this is awful leadership especially since Oats said they knew about this before yesterday. He doesn't need to be kicked off the team but no discipline at all publicly seems to send the wrong message.
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