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re: A look back on 2019 lsu vs 2001 Miami and 1995 Nebraska

Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:24 am to
Posted by Ghazi
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:24 am to
Hhmm forgot about 2008 USC.. Shame they didn't get a shot at a national title because of one fluke loss early in the season
Posted by TheRouxGuru
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:25 am to
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A little before my time but I just checked their box scores and I’m seeing only 2 close games. 18-7 @Boston College and 26-24 @Virginia Tech. The latter of which, the Canes led 26-10 in the 4th


Now do the same for LSU
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:25 am to
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And they couldn't throw the ball. (1700 yards)


"didn't" doesn't automatically mean "couldn't"

they were an option team that averaged almost as many total yards per game as 2019 LSU's offense did (LSU - 568 ypg ; NU - 556 ypg)

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They couldn't stop the pass.


they only trailed once all year. and that was in the first quarter of a game.
their average score of a game was 52 - 13 (2019 LSU's was 48-26)
meaning literally every single team they faced was playing from behind and throwing the ball against backups. That tends to skew passing numbers.

Posted by TheRouxGuru
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:26 am to
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You just went full retard mode.


Based off of what exactly? Your assumption is better than mine because…… why?
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:26 am to
Heck, Miami had four NFL first-rounders on defense (Sapp, Lewis, Lang, Holmes) plus The Rock and Nebraska beat them in their own house, and that was in 94... in Frazier's first game back after being out 8 weeks with blood clots! The 95 squad was a wrecking machine. 95 Kansas State had the #1 scoring defense in the country that year and Nebraska scored 49 on them, which was more than 1/3 of the points they surrendered all year. That 95 Nebraska team didn't give up a single sack all season despite throwing the ball 228 times that year. Averaged 400 yards rushing per game and 156 passing.
This post was edited on 7/22/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted by TheRouxGuru
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:29 am to
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Winston Cup


Man, are you trying to come across as ignorant?

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andre johnson was better than chase or jefferson


In college??! Ok
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 11:32 am
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:32 am to
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it was a very controlled passing game. Nothing complicated. It was all field position and TOP.
And they were the 6th most efficient passing team in CFB when they did pass. So why are you saying they couldn't pass?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:33 am to
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let me know when one of the 2019 lsu players is being considered as the best nfl player ever at their position


can we maybe let a few of them play more than 2 seasons in the NFL first?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:34 am to
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Not sure about that

LSU currently has 3 nfl starters from that o-line



I very well could be way off. I just remember Miami's oline being a significant strong point and was instrumental to Dorsey being serviceable. I also remember Burrow shining regardless of the pressure.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:36 am to
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Nebraska players of 95 were smaller than your players today.
the only position where 95 Nebraska was small by todays standards was DT and LB
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 11:49 am to
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Using how their players succeed in the NFL should not be 1,


I give zero care to this


But you do realize how many were 1st rd picks coming out of college because they were studs in college, right?


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We already know you think they beat everyone "with ease" but that's not true


They were played as tough as most generational teams. Very little
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:00 pm to
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And they were the 6th most efficient passing team in CFB when they did pass. So why are you saying they couldn't pass?




Because they threw for 1700 yards and how many men were in the box when they did that? They were considered a one-dimensional offense. I also said they were not a top 10 defense with their DBs. The truth is the 1971 Nebraska team with Heisman winner Johnny Rogers and Jerry Tagge was arguably right there with any Tom Osborne version. That 1971 game vs undefeated Oklahoma with Jack Mildren and Greg Pruitt was properly entitled, "Game of the Century." Two all-time great teams that happen to meet up in the same conference.
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:07 pm to
Both of y’all are just making assumptions
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Because they threw for 1700 yards and how many men were in the box when they did that? They were considered a one-dimensional offense.


when you lead every single game all game long by an average of 3+ TD's at half and more than 5 TDs per game, you tend not to throw much.

choosing not to pass does not equal can't pass.

Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:26 pm to
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when you lead every single game all game long by an average of 3+ TD's at half and more than 5 TDs per game, you tend not to throw much.


Their regular season schedule was minor league. And even Florida was a flawed team. Even when it came time to play Oklahoma they were a 30-point favorite.

In 1971 they had to travel to Norman and it was the #1 vs #2 team that lived up to the billing. Then they played an undefeated Alabama team also ranked #2 in the Orange Bowl and demolished them. They were a great team.

Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Their regular season schedule was minor league. And even Florida was a flawed team. Even when it came time to play Oklahoma they were a 30-point favorite.

In 1971 they had to travel to Norman and it was the #1 vs #2 team that lived up to the billing. Then they played an undefeated Alabama team also ranked #2 in the Orange Bowl and demolished them. They were a great team.





i'm not comparing them to '71.

i'm saying they CHOSE not to pass.
you saying they COULD NOT pass.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Is 2011 Alabama still the best defense of all time?


Nah, they got to pad stats against 2011 LSU... twice
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Compared to national title teams? They have one top 10 win and very close games against two teams outside the top 15


They beat everyone on their schedule that was made well in advance of the season. LSU played close games with Texas, Auburn, and Alabama in 2019. Not sure why you’re acting like they just steamrolled everyone they played either.

Are you comparing teams or résumé? If it’s the former then what I quoted you on is completely irrelevant.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:44 pm to
Didn’t Alabama have a roster that had more future nfl players than anyone ever?

I think 2001 Miami had the most star power but they weren’t the best team…they were coached by a bum
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/14/22 at 12:48 pm to
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LSU played close games with Texas, Auburn, and Alabama in 2019. Not sure why you’re acting like they just steamrolled everyone they played either.


Even with late scores in all three of those games, none of them ever had the ball with a chance to take the lead. The closest anyone got to beating 2019 LSU was an onside kick just to have a chance.
This post was edited on 7/14/22 at 12:51 pm
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