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re: 2026 Louisiana HS Baseball Season
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:33 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:33 am to ProjectP2294
quote:
ay doesn't push guys over 100 pitches on the first weekend.
Jay's players are older, more physically mature, and under the guidance of the best baseball (and specifically pitching) S&C coach in the country.
Jay's not dealing with high school kids on high school weight programs with barely there ramp up processes.
sometimes they are older but not always and thats fine as far as Jay goes, I used him as an example, plenty of colleges who do not have the coaches LSU has do run them out there for that long.
and many of these top kids train remotely with the top facility and pitching coaches.
i was just using Jay and LSU as an example and I dont disagree with anything you put.
and I dont think they should have pitched him 100 plus no matter if they were up or not. Just like I didnt think Koa should have pitched a complete game either.
im just saying, do pick and choose when to be outraged and we dont have the whole picture as far as how much that kid is ramped up.
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:37 am to LSU Tigers 1976
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these HS throwing programs are a joke.
Can confirm! For many schools there is no such thing as a "program". They are given zero instruction/direction after Thanksgiving and show back up first week of January, given jerseys, and told to go warm up for practice.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:43 am to lsu777
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actually the opposite...if he is throwing that much, hopefully he did do a 4-6 week on ramp.
every single HS baseball player that pitches should be starting their on ramp in December right after christmas.
An on ramp is completely different than going max effort in the off season to impress a scout.
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complete eye wash. there are no big PG or PBR events after mid oct anyways. most are in middle of HS fall scrimmages come mid oct to mid nov anyways
There were enough to have this decision by MLB lauded by many High School coaches, including the one at Barbe.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:47 am to ProjectP2294
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Jay doesn't push guys over 100 pitches on the first weekend.
Yep. Last year his starters went 67, 81, and 83 pitches. Very reasonable for a college staff. For HS kids I'd back that off a little just to be safe. Maybe 60-70 pitches assuming long toss started in December.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:47 am to Tigerfan1274
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An on ramp is completely different than going max effort in the off season to impress a scout.
i agree but that wasnt happening anyways. the bigger fall tournaments are done by mid oct.
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There were enough to have this decision by MLB lauded by many High School coaches, including the one at Barbe.
i dunno why yall think because i know alot of what is going on with barbe i have a kid there. i dont.
but that doesnt change the fact its pretty much eye wash. the major tournaments are done by mid oct and the big schools start fall scrimmages that involve high intent throwing including in game situations on the mound. so what did it really solve?
im not saying its a bad thing...im just saying it was something put in place that is more eye wash than anything.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:50 am to RidiculousHype
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Yep. Last year his starters went 67, 81, and 83 pitches. Very reasonable for a college staff. For HS kids I'd back that off a little just to be safe. Maybe 60-70 pitches assuming long toss started in December.
The only guy that came close, in Jay's tenure here, was Skenes at 98. Everyone else was at 87 or below. Most were in the 70s.
And Skenes throwing 98 pitches week one is kind of like when people talk about Nolan Ryan throwing 150 pitches every 4 days. Let's not base our standards on the absolute physical freaks.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:01 am to ProjectP2294
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And Skenes throwing 98 pitches week one is kind of like when people talk about Nolan Ryan throwing 150 pitches every 4 days. Let's not base our standards on the absolute physical freaks.
One thing that needs to be a part of this discussion is the leverage game #1 has or doesn’t have on ultimately playoff and title hopes.
That leverage absolutely should influence how you use your “dudes”. Hahnville didn’t get a trophy for beating Rummel
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:06 am to RidiculousHype
quote:
Yep. Last year his starters went 67, 81, and 83 pitches. Very reasonable for a college staff. For HS kids I'd back that off a little just to be safe. Maybe 60-70 pitches assuming long toss started in December.
i just used jay as an example. plenty of coaching staffs do.
my point was many of the same guys who bitch about a HS senior doing it, will praise it the following year when he is in college.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:39 am to chalmetteowl
If teams are preparing the arms like they're supposed to:
The ramp up should begin with general arm care to prime it. Then work up in distance and volume, while continuing arm care. They shouldn't just jump on a mound either. Flat ground ramp up should precede mound ramp up. They should work at less than 60 ft for early flat ground and mound work. I would guess that less than 5% of high schools are doing this properly. I'd guess less than 1% of travel ball teams are.
With that said, some are. And they're also using the early scrimmages to continue the ramp up. The ace may very well be ready for opening day against Rummel, whether that game really means anything or not.
Just kinda my opinion, though. In no way justifying these kids throwing a ton of pitches in February.
The ramp up should begin with general arm care to prime it. Then work up in distance and volume, while continuing arm care. They shouldn't just jump on a mound either. Flat ground ramp up should precede mound ramp up. They should work at less than 60 ft for early flat ground and mound work. I would guess that less than 5% of high schools are doing this properly. I'd guess less than 1% of travel ball teams are.
With that said, some are. And they're also using the early scrimmages to continue the ramp up. The ace may very well be ready for opening day against Rummel, whether that game really means anything or not.
Just kinda my opinion, though. In no way justifying these kids throwing a ton of pitches in February.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:55 am to DRock88
quote:While I understand your point, I think there is better coaching in programs than you suggest, while we are not a baseball factory like some programs in the State, we have a pretty good ramp up that started in November this year as we had a Feb start date. I think most bigger programs have some form of program, whether perfect or not, i dont know. I think the number is higher than 5%
Then work up in distance and volume, while continuing arm care. They shouldn't just jump on a mound either. Flat ground ramp up should precede mound ramp up. They should work at less than 60 ft for early flat ground and mound work. I would guess that less than 5% of high schools are doing this properly. I'd guess less than 1% of travel ball teams are.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:47 pm to lsu777
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i agree. but at the same time....have that same energy if Jay does the same friday.
I would aboslutely have the same energy if Jay pushes any starter this weekend over 90 pitches, let alone 116. And I'll be off the chains if he sends a starter back out there in hte late innings nearing 100 pitches with a nine run lead the tenth weekend of the season (unless he's got a no-hetter going), let alone the first weekend. But you know damn well that would never happen.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:21 pm to LSUgrad88
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I would aboslutely have the same energy if Jay pushes any starter this weekend over 90 pitches, let alone 116. And I'll be off the chains if he sends a starter back out there in hte late innings nearing 100 pitches with a nine run lead the tenth weekend of the season (unless he's got a no-hetter going), let alone the first weekend. But you know damn well that would never happen.
maybe not with Jay but it will happen across CBB
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:37 pm to LSUgrad88
quote:there’s a sweet spot though where you save the bullpen and extend the starter though… if the lead is too much though you give a back of the pen freshman the work…
And I'll be off the chains if he sends a starter back out there in hte late innings nearing 100 pitches with a nine run lead the tenth weekend of the season (unless he's got a no-hetter going)
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:50 pm to chalmetteowl
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if the lead is too much though you give a back of the pen freshman the work…
Says not the young guy taking over a program that is in a meat grinder of a district facing Barbe, Sam Houston, Sulphur, etc. and has a perennial State Champ contender STM down in the first game, looking for some momentum for his program.
Look, the coach wished he had taken him out at 96 pitches. The kid wanted no part of coming out, but probably should have, even though he is the most conditioned kid on the team. He wants the mound Sat vs Teurlings, but highly doubtful that happens.
In the last couple years, we've seen some kids go over 100 pitches early with some mixed results. Probably not a good idea. But if LSU is letting Romero do it, there must be some thought going into it.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:16 pm to wahoocs
quote:is Romero going to pitch at LSU?
the last couple years, we've seen some kids go over 100 pitches early with some mixed results. Probably not a good idea. But if LSU is letting Romero do it, there must be some thought going into it.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:43 pm to tigerfoot
This is more of a 2025 player question. Marshall Louque had TJ last year. Has he been released to pitch for LSU-E yet or will he be redshirted?
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:35 pm to LSUDAN1
I don't really know the answer to that, for sure. Somebody here or in the Recruiting thread will, though. If I recall correctly, he wasn't planning to pitch this season even if cleared. He's gotten a few pinch hit at bats so far. I think it's trending to redshirt. Again, I'm not completely sure.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:39 pm to DRock88
If he played in Juco, you can't redshirt, but shouldn't hurt him when going to a 4 year school.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:04 pm to wahoocs
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Look, the coach wished he had taken him out at 96 pitches. The kid wanted no part of coming out, but probably should have, even though he is the most conditioned kid on the team.
Its 10-1 going into the 7th, you need three ouits with a nine run lead. He wishes he had taken him out? How is that even a question first start of the season? Get out of here with that garbage. A coach has to take care of his player's health. Period. End of story. And maybe you can answer this question, but I was told he's also, when he doesn't pitch, the starting SS (maybe that's not correct). So that's even more of a reason to get him out.
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This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 10:21 pm to LSUgrad88
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Period. End of story. And maybe you can answer this question, but I was told he's also, when he doesn't pitch, the starting SS (maybe that's not correct)
Well, you obviously know a lot more about the kid and his conditioning than me, so I’ll let you decide if those 20 pitches were a mistake
Maybe something gained all around, while you pull for an injury to say I told you so
I was around for 150 pitch games routinely happening. Just an old man I guess.
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