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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:29 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:29 am to fightin tigers
Adam Stern
@A_S12
Among the revelations in @CNBC's new F1 doc, Liberty Media is spending closer to $600 million on @F1LasVegas, not $500 million, + event CEO Renee Wilm said that there were "south of 1,000" general-admission tickets put on sale this year, though the aim is to grow that next year.
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Should have splurged for better welders.
I read so many complaints on social media last night. One was an Outback Steakhouse video sent by the manager and he showed an empty room with a comment “we sold one blooming onion”. Lots of businesses lost major customers due to this race.
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:30 am to fightin tigers
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Yes, conveniently leaving out all of those in attendance at non-F1 ticketed venues based all around the track will make the numbers a lot smaller.
Because those people did not buy a ticket to the race- and its a relatively small number that doesn’t change the attendance by any order of magnitude
My father inlaw owns a building that overlooks turn 1 of the Detroit GP circuit. When i watch the race from his building I am not counted as a paid attendee for that race
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:34 am to SkiUtah420
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When i watch the race from his building I am not counted as a paid attendee for that race
You are correct.
Doesn't mean you aren't in attendance for the race.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:41 am to fightin tigers
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Austin has had estimates of 1B return for each GP held there.
I can easily see the $1B figure for Austin considering how packed it was.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:51 am to TigerAlumni2010
I think the Vegas F1 numbers are using the Austin numbers and banking on having nearly as many people in town for the event and the crowd spending more, because it's Vegas.
Do they actual get that number? No idea, not sure if the crowd outside the circuit is what they expected. Not sure if they were serious, but someone posted a casino having $20MM in bottle service for this weekend. Numbers like that are hard to believe, but again, Vegas.
Do they actual get that number? No idea, not sure if the crowd outside the circuit is what they expected. Not sure if they were serious, but someone posted a casino having $20MM in bottle service for this weekend. Numbers like that are hard to believe, but again, Vegas.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:51 am to SkiUtah420
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se those people did not buy a ticket to the race- and its a relatively small number that doesn’t change the attendance by any order of magnitude
MGM has their own section on the strip that holds slightly more than "a relatively small number of people." You've got restaurants and casinos all up and down having their own viewing parties.
I'd wager there's a larger number of non F1 "seats" than most other races.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:53 am to horsesandbulls
I would take that wager all day, because this is the lowest attended race of the year outside of Bahrain.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:57 am to OU Guy
Arash Markazi
@ArashMarkazi
I’m fascinated by the number they come with for the final true financial impact of this year’s F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix. The Strip is dead. Restaurants are empty. Shows are dark. They’re telling everyone without a race ticket to stay away. It’s just a cold, miserable scene so far.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:57 am to fightin tigers
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Do they actual get that number? No idea, not sure if the crowd outside the circuit is what they expected. Not sure if they were serious, but someone posted a casino having $20MM in bottle service for this weekend. Numbers like that are hard to believe, but again, Vegas.
Nowhere close, there are entire sections of grandstands totally sparse during FP1... There maybe were 10k people at the track for practice
There is a decent amount of private jet traffic (I'm in the industry) but 400 private jets is not a huge number.
Based on hotel prices, there doesn't seem to be an extraordinary amount of people in Vegas for the race who don't plan on buying a race ticket
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:59 am to OU Guy
This guy has 770,000 twitter followers:
Matt Gallagher
@MattP1Gallagher
F1 fans at Las Vegas today:
- Spent thousands to be there
- Saw 9 minutes of FP1
- Waited HOURS for next session
- Kicked out just before FP2 starts
- F1 themselves haven’t apologised
- Probably not getting a refund
I feel so bad
Matt Gallagher
@MattP1Gallagher
F1 fans at Las Vegas today:
- Spent thousands to be there
- Saw 9 minutes of FP1
- Waited HOURS for next session
- Kicked out just before FP2 starts
- F1 themselves haven’t apologised
- Probably not getting a refund
I feel so bad
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:02 pm to OU Guy
I have watched every GP since 1994.
If Alonso was retired, I would not tune in Saturday night.
Liberty Media is a clown turning F1 into a joke.
If Alonso was retired, I would not tune in Saturday night.
Liberty Media is a clown turning F1 into a joke.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:15 pm to AlonsoWDC
I never realized the same firm that owns DRL and fucjing Live Nation own Formula1.
Insane.
Insane.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:16 pm to OU Guy
just listened to the pod. i feel so bad for the fans. f1 needs to make that right.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:23 pm to AlonsoWDC
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Liberty Media is a clown turning F1 into a joke.
Milking that cow for everything it is worth then flipping it.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:26 pm to 1999
Slow day at work, so I've been thinking way too much about this. Sainz/Ferrari need to be getting louder about the grid penalty. Absolutely terrible. Stewards claim there is no rule that allows them to not penalize Sainz. My question is when have rules ever stopped them?
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:29 pm to BottomlandBrew
99.9% of the time?
Sky strongly hinted Mercedes would appeal and win if he was not penalized. Blame them if anything.
I did not want him to get a penalty either.
Sky strongly hinted Mercedes would appeal and win if he was not penalized. Blame them if anything.
I did not want him to get a penalty either.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:33 pm to kaizan85
frick Mercedes 
They appealed last time the rules were made up, and they lost.
They appealed last time the rules were made up, and they lost. Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:35 pm to BottomlandBrew
Went back to look at the 2017 Malaysia GP, where RoGro hit the loose drain.
The track ended up paying the team money for the incident.
The track ended up paying the team money for the incident.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:36 pm to OU Guy
I would 100% be disputing those charges as others have said.
Posted on 11/17/23 at 12:37 pm to BottomlandBrew
I am sorry. Looks like Sky jumped the gun again. They ended up saying it was just an FIA decision. We can blame only them again,
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