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re: 2023 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted on 10/10/23 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 12:43 pm to
Checo is a dead man walking
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 1:11 pm to
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I don’t see what red bull has to gain by keeping him the rest of this season. They should move up the next driver and get him some seat time.

Danny ric coming back soon too….


We'll have to see what they do. They could put Danny Ric(I wouldnt) in Checos seat until next year and then move Yuki or Lawson up to it. If a superstar becomes available they could give that seat to them and let Yuki/Lawson continue in the AT car.

I feel like checo and danny ric are the same person though. Theyre statistics are very similar, so I dont know if it would benefit RedBull to put Ric in a seat.
Posted by Skeet Mc
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 1:20 pm to
For the next 2-3 years, Does Red Bull want another superstar driver or would settle for a solid wingman such as Bottas?
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 1:35 pm to
RBR thinks ricc can handle the traits of their car (based on his past time with the team and the simulator). plus, helmut and christian love the guy.

they don't want another superstar. just a guy that can pick up the pieces when max has an occasional bad weekend. and checo isn't doing that.

i think it's 70/30 danny gets that seat next year. checo just seems done.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 2:07 pm
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:00 pm to
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Posted by Hermit Crab
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:03 pm to
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they don't want another superstar. just a guy that can pick up the pieces when max has an occasional bad weekend. and checo isn't doing that.


And someone that Max doesn't hate. And I would assume since they have a long history together he passes that test since he is back in the mix.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:09 pm to
I'd like to see Lawson get a shot.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:15 pm to
Liam will be taken care of when ricc or Yuki leave. that could be as early as next year but no later than 2025. and with stroll possibly leaving Aston Martin and Yuki as the replacement, there could be two open seats at AT.
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 6:49 pm to
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I don’t see what red bull has to gain by keeping him the rest of this season. They should move up the next driver and get him some seat time.

Danny ric coming back soon too….


He's still in second in the points. Ham taking himself out helped Perez with that.

They may want to try and get him to the end of the season and hope he holds on.

Also, he has some Mexican sponsors and the likelihood of him getting canned before the Mexico race would seem remote. They'd probably need Cartel security if they shitcan him before that race.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:01 pm to
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with stroll possibly leaving Aston Martin


Stroll has been outscored by his teammates 484-241 in his career. The only teammate he ever outscored was Sergey Sirotkin 6-1 in 2018.

Just thought that was funny.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:08 pm to
Checo is 100% finishing the year with RBR. I don’t feel like that’s in question.
Posted by billjamin
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:25 pm to
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Checo is 100% finishing the year with RBR.

You’re probably right but I put nothing past Darth Helmut.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 8:26 pm
Posted by NfamousPanda
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:29 pm to
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I feel like checo and danny ric are the same person though. Theyre statistics are very similar, so I dont know if it would benefit RedBull to put Ric in a seat.


I think Ric is at the point of his career where he just wants to drive a car he’s comfortable in and be a good teammate. He knows he can’t win a drivers championship but I think he wants to be on a team shooting for constructors trophy. I think that’s exactly what RBR want in a second driver to Max. They just need someone consistent and Checo isn’t that. With Merc and McLaren starting to get their cars competitive, they need consistency from their second driver next year if they want to secure constructors again
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 8:33 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:42 pm to
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Darth Helmut


How many problems would be solved if Helmut just went away?

I liked the quote “Red Bull actually fired him but he just kept showing up anyway and no one has the energy to tell him to frick off”
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:10 pm to
He has to be contributing something. Experience should count for a lot, but if he's just stuck in his ways, that's not good.
Posted by billjamin
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 9:14 pm to
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“Red Bull actually fired him but he just kept showing up anyway and no one has the energy to tell him to frick off”

Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:40 am to
He technically isn’t even part of the team. When he made that comment on “South American racers” people were furious and asked Horner WTF and he said “he is an advisor to our parent company, he has actually isn’t a part of my department so no comment” which further angered people
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 6:39 am to
Christian actually reported to Helmut before Dietrich died. Not sure what the new power structure is, but he must still have a lot of power, because he made the call to hire/fire Devries.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 6:57 am to
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Helmut Marko responds to Gerhard Berger, who said it would be wisest for Checo to leave Red Bull in his own interest: "You don't want to hear an answer from me on that just before the Mexican Grand Prix."
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:00 am to
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Checo is 100% finishing the year with RBR. I don’t feel like that’s in question.


If Danny Ric is the guy, why wouldn’t they just swap those two and get Ric extra real world time in the RB since it means nothing at this point?
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