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Posted on 3/4/23 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 3:52 pm to
Interesting switch between Red Bull and Ferrari. Last year Verstappen was much faster on the straights, now it looks like Ferrari.



Side by side of 2021 qualy
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 4:16 pm to
RBR seems to be a better race day car. Still hoping for an Alonso podium.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 7:14 pm to
Interesting that last year Ferrari owned the low speed corners and now it seems that Red Bull does.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

Magic Alonso may be old, but he's still the best driver.


I am drunk on an Alonso resurgence. I hope he pushes like hell on Ferrari and RB tomorrow to force errors. Sainz is guaranteed one, Charles will get a le tired of fighting, Checo no se, Max will not let him pass so.

Max 1
Alonso 2
Merc 3
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:09 pm to
Why is the subject not updated?
Posted by TexasTiger33
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:12 pm to
1 LEC
2 VER
3 RUS
This post was edited on 3/4/23 at 9:13 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Why is the subject not updated?




Under stewards review
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5305 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:44 pm to
Just watched qualifying, two topics wondering if addressed:

I saw several times in Q1 and Q2 Alonso's DRS open then immediately slam close like RBR last year. Was Alonso suffering DRS issues? Cameras didnt focus on him much in Q3.

Is tire strategy the reason Hulk didnt abort his flying lap, come in, change tires, and try to put up a time in Q3? I find it very concerning, and very HAAS-like if the team didnt alert him to abort that flying lap. His track limit was Turn 4 and he had plenty of time to cool down, come in, and make it back around for flying lap. But it looks like he finished the lap + cool down killed a chance for another run.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:57 pm to
Good questions. I wonder if we overlayed his Q2 time to Q3, where would have started (HUL)?

Based on last year I can’t trust Haas or Ferrari strategists until they prove over races to be past their stupidity from last year. Haas has a great middle pack car like last year so can they wring those results out of it?

Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5305 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:34 pm to
130.809 was Hulk Q2, good enough for P8 in Q3 without improvment. However P7 was decent jump to 130.384.

Still though, Id think you gamble in Race 1 with such promising Q2 times.

I also want to see video of Hulks track limit. The ESPN broadcast made it seem the track limits were very lenient.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4916 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

Interesting that last year Ferrari owned the low speed corners and now it seems that Red Bull does.



I guess it makes sense on Ferrari's end. They got beat routinely early on because of their straightline speed disadvantage.

Red Bull probably has a car that can do whatever they want. They might ultimately have better straightline speed when they deem it necessary.

Helmut Marko says that the race for them will be with Alonso. Ferrari's deg is too high to compete right now.

and

Toto Wolff admits Mercedes must change car design concept


quote:

"I don't think this package is going to be competitive eventually," he said. "We gave it our best go over the winter and now we need to regroup, sit down with the engineers, who are totally not dogmatic about anything -- there are no holy cows -- and decide what is the development direction that we want to pursue in order to be competitive to win races.

"It is not like last year when you score many podiums and eventually you get there, I'm sure that we can win races this season, but it's the mid- and long-term that we need to look at and which decisions we need to make."
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4916 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

I saw several times in Q1 and Q2 Alonso's DRS open then immediately slam close like RBR last year. Was Alonso suffering DRS issues? Cameras didnt focus on him much in Q3.


I don't know where you saw that but on the main straight the DRS line is very close to the finish line. If he lifted right after crossing the finish line it would open and shut pretty quickly. Some drivers would stay on the throttle all the way down the main straight even after their lap was over.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
20330 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 11:15 pm to
Side note for this year as an experiment:

For the six Saturday sprints in 2023, the activation of DRS after the start or a safety car restart will now begin following one lap of action, rather than two.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10859 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 11:20 pm to


Sorry boys, Max dominates another season
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82908 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:24 am to
Its RaceDay

Prediction for today

Ver
Per
Alo
Lec
Rus

I do think a Merc and Ferrari implode and DNF. I'm guessing its Ham and Sai
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5750 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:26 am to
This is going to be great today. I think the only way to beat red bull is going to be their errors, car problems, or wrecks.
Their team seems to be putting things together with perfection though.
Feel like it would be a little disappointing if merc and Ferrari just do not even look up to the challenge.
Alonso will be fun to watch today starting in front of the two merc’s.
Have fun watching today guys.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86857 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:53 am to
What we don’t know yet is how these engines perform over a full race. Remember last year how bad RBR was with reliability. I’m sure we see some of that today with a team or two.
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7978 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:18 am to
Not sure if I trust McLaren enough to go with LANDO in my DraftKings.

Think we end up with a Redbull Ferrari Redbull podium today. I know I’m really going out on a limb there.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 7:19 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
82908 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:35 am to
Sky has allowed Nico back… guess they got off their Vax bullshite
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8270 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:00 am to
Just a FYI, Indy comes on right after F1 today at 11am, Grojean is on pole.
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