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Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

It would be amazing to watch LeClerc battle Verstappen in an equal car.


Yes it would.

Chuck is fire on one lap while I think Max might be a bit better in the race.

Would love to see them both in the same car to see who really is the fastest.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45897 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Mercedes technical director James Allison is expecting the team's recently upgraded front wing to have a significant impact at the Hungarian Grand Prix, after the new part showed "promising signs" at Silverstone.


LINK

big expectations for Mercedes in Hungary


Red Bull is upgrading too. new sidepods
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 9:11 am
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:16 am to
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big expectations for Mercedes


Keep hearing this; then keep getting disappointed.

They are doing amazing considering the issues they seem to be having, but we haven't really seen some big evolution like Mclaren/Aston
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:36 am to
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Keep hearing this; then keep getting disappointed.


Love every minute.

F Mercedes.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:56 am to
Fascinating article about F1/FIA developing the 2026 car, with some commentary on the 2022 and 2009 redesigns.

motorsport.com/f1/news/the-computing-powerhouse-that-gives-f1-faith-over-its-2026-car-plan

I think even the casual fan learns that one of the problems with passing is that a car loses downforce following another car closely around a corner. What I had never heard of was that the cars were not just losing downforce, but were becoming unpredictable:

quote:

Symonds also points out that, while it is nigh on impossible to create cars that do not lose any performance when following closely, the current generation are not undriveable in another's wake. 

“The one thing we're absolutely certain on, and this is from driver feedback and the data that we see, is that with the 2021 cars, when they were following not only had they lost an enormous amount of downforce, but they were very, very unpredictable.  

“With the current cars, the balance is actually very, very good in the wake of another car. Of course you lose some grip, but you don't suddenly get understeer turning into oversteer, and things like that. You know what the car is going to do. So that is an aspect that I am pleased with.”
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 11:00 am
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:57 am to
So, I was looking at the F1 Schedule.. It shows Las Vegas starting Sunday night at 12 am? Looks like I'll catch it when I wake up.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:34 am to
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:35 am to
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It shows Las Vegas starting Sunday night at 12 am?

It’ll be a fricking clown show anyway. There’s nothing we do better over here.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:26 pm to
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Latest rumor mill has LeClerc to redbull and Sainz to Audi, with Albon taking a Ferrari seat.


I have a hard time seeing LeClerc take a #2 spot. But even more so imo Red Bull just isn't going to let someone legitimately compete with Max. I can see Checco getting replaced but they have what they want right now, Max as a dominant #1 and a #2 that is good enough to finish top 2 but not good enough to challenge Max. I don't think they truly want a battle for their top spot.

Would love for Sainz get the chance to be a #1 on a team that doesn't constantly make boneheaded decisions. Really excited about Audi joining.

If one of the Ferrari seats opens up, I'd actually like to see what Albon could do. I'd like for Williams to keep getting better but I think ALbon is fast enough to compete for top 3 finishes in the right car. Probably out of any of the drivers on the grid, he's earned a promotion.



Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
39072 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:31 pm to
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It shows Las Vegas starting Sunday night at 12 am?

It’ll be a fricking clown show anyway. There’s nothing we do better over here.




Can't embarrass yourself like Miami is nobody can watch

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78359 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:51 pm to
Leclerc isn't going to require Hamilton money, but Racey Spice already indicated they don't have the money to pay two top salaries.

He is probably fibbing a little, but Leclerc is going to be offered a lot of money wherever he goes next.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112848 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:14 pm to
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So, I was looking at the F1 Schedule.. It shows Las Vegas starting Sunday night at 12 am? Looks like I'll catch it when I wake up.

Whoa, that is weird.

Race at 12am CST, quali on Saturday at 2am CST


Feels like that has to be wrong on the F1 website, but who knows.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112848 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:17 pm to
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Testing new tire qualy rules at Hungary:

Don't like this, we're using hards in Q1?
quote:

During qualifying, teams are limited in what compounds they can use in dry conditions. Teams are required to use the hard compound during Q1, the medium compound during Q2, and finally they can use the softs during Q3.
Quali should be all softs, the entire point is to go as fast as possible. Not sure I see the benefit of this.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78359 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Not sure I see the benefit of this.


Forcing jeopardy.

Won't really change the top teams, but those on the bubble will feel it. They can't run softs against mediums to get an advantage into Q2/Q3.

Checo should at least make it out Q1

F1 used to have one of the best qualifying session and they are slowly dismantling it.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112848 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

F1 used to have one of the best qualifying session and they are slowly dismantling it.

What was it like previously? I just started watching last season.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78359 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:31 pm to
Engine modes and Q2 quali tire being the tire you started the race on are the two biggest changes.

The method is still the same.

Now they are introducing forced tire choice.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Race at 12am CST, quali on Saturday at 2am CST


Typo. European times. They just screwed it up on the site.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45897 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:37 pm to
it's actually a midnight CST start. 10 PM local.

racing around the sphere is going to be sweet, but won't it be distracting to the drivers? they will probably have to turn all those lights off

This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112848 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

it's actually a midnight CST start. 10 PM local.

I guess if you're gonna do a Vegas race, you kind of have to do it at night to get the view with all the lights. But a 10pm local time start seems late.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 2:06 pm to
Jesus, that's dumb. I was trying to give the benefit of doubt. But no...
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