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Posted on 10/23/22 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by bikerack
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 8:48 pm to
The decision for Red Bull is official.
Posted by busbeepbeep
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:00 pm to
Alonso with a penalty that takes him to P15.

LINK

bullshite that Alonso gets a 10s stop and go which is equal to 30 seconds and Russell only gets 5 seconds for ending Sainz'race.
This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:02 pm to
Sounds like Red Bull sent an email
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

bullshite that Alonso gets a 10s stop and go which is equal to 30 seconds and Russell only gets 5 seconds for ending Sainz'race.


Alonso should have been DQ'd.

Mirrors are safety equipment afterall. Don't feel bad for them after they skated on the front left wheel nut earlier in the year.
This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 9:06 pm
Posted by busbeepbeep
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

Alonso should have been DQ'd
then show the flag during the race.

Race has been over for more than 5 hours.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:14 pm to
Agree with that.

Why I said he should have been DQ'd.

FIA again walked the line with doing what they should have and doing no harm. The mirror sitting on the back stretch was inexcusable. But FIA can't actually admit they were wrong by not calling it.


Damage from a spring of about the same size
This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 9:16 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:22 pm to
Watch that endplate off Perez's car when it goes. Would do the same, or worse, if it hit a drivers helmet. Thing flew like a missile.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:24 pm to
We have seen endplates fly, not a good thing, but Perez couldn't have seen it and I don't think it lasted as long as KMags previous times this year.

RBR didn't do anything uncommon IMHO with how that went down.

Haas is trying to bring to light that though, especially because of how they were handled earlier this year.
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:29 pm to
At least one of Mag's meatballs came out in less time than Perez was on track with his dangling bits.

Frankly, that's the only reason I'm not pleased. Reeks of favoritism.

And it basically seems that as long as the part falls off, which is when it is dangerous, before they decide to throw the flag you are all good. So they are sitting there letting it run for several laps with an obvious safety issue essentially seeing if the problem solves itself.

Shitty logic on their part.
Posted by bikerack
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:29 pm to
Right - Perez' end plate flew off before anyone had a chance to do something.

Alonso's mirror flapped around for a good while and then, after it flew off, the car was deemed "unsafe". Since they didn't retire the car or replace the mirror, they got hit with the penalty.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Alonso's mirror flapped around


I was surprised he wasn’t forced to pit by race control. Obvious it was going to come off
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:35 pm to
It reads like Alpine was hit for not fixing the mirror when he came in.

Think it was AT who had to tape their rear wing for something similar earlier this year.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 9:48 pm to
Question for the experts: There is probably ruling against it, but what prevented Ferrari from repairing Sainz after returning to the pit under his own power? With it being lap #1/2 I would imagine they could have repaired. Looking at the red flag clause, had it been red flagged, repairs to cooling system would have been permitted. I would think there is analytics that would show some % of points of repair under caution + cheap future under yellow pit stops would allow points and possible helping Chuck. I mean the entire season manufacturer's standings for Ferrari came down to this and seems like a white flag was raised on lap #2.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:04 pm to
Once he was 1-2 laps down it was out of the question. No chance he makes it back in the points, because of blue flags he couldn't really help. He would have to lap the entire field multiple times when the leaders aren't even lapping most of the field these days.

No to mention whatever damage probably takes a while to uncover.

Legally; they could have worked on the car though. Kimi in Baku (2017?) did this.
This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 10:16 pm
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:13 pm to
On another note, I noticed the tire from Stroll’s car came loose and rolled away after the wreck. Not the first time a loose tire has happened in recent memory, wonder if the tethers are working?
Posted by bikerack
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:47 pm to
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Chris Medland
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Alpine has now protested the admissibility of the Haas protest, saying it was lodged after the deadline.

Only in F1…
Posted by busbeepbeep
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:50 pm to




This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 10:58 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:00 pm to
Just got back home (DFW area) from COTA. Man, we had a great time, today. The DRS zone and speed trap on the straightaway between turns 11-12 was amazing today, then the battles between 12 and 17 had the crowd excited and amazed the entire race. Takeover after takeover happened there, today

Got pics live as it happened of the Stroll/Alonzo crash. Pics are on my camera, so I need to take them off and put them up online to post here.

The parking and traffic management was a thousand times better than last year! They still suck on making cell signals available. Could not use the phone to track the race, or TD, but thankfully radio station 1370am broadcast the race announcers live.

The announcers talking about how windy it was weren't kidding. Dozens of people lost hats that blew off the stands. I imagine it played hell with the cars.

Finally, I have no idea why Ed Sheeran is so popular. His performance on Saturday night at COTA was so out of place. After three songs, thousands were leaving. My group, too. After the amazing show by Green Day on Friday night, his was a huge letdown.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:38 am to
What a clusterfrick of a race in regards to procedures.

1) Russell only gets 5 seconds?
2) Perez doesn't get shown a meatball for something that most other teams would.
3) Gasly gets a penalty for the 10 car length rule, and it gets penalized during the race. Compare that to Checo's two infractions and a delayed penalty in Singapore.
4) Alonso doesn't get shown a meatball flag, but somehow still gets penalized hours after the race.

Never change, FIA and stewards.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:49 am to
quote:

What a clusterfrick of a race in regards to procedures.

1) Russell only gets 5 seconds?
2) Perez doesn't get shown a meatball for something that most other teams would.
3) Gasly gets a penalty for the 10 car length rule, and it gets penalized during the race. Compare that to Checo's two infractions and a delayed penalty in Singapore.
4) Alonso doesn't get shown a meatball flag, but somehow still gets penalized hours after the race.

Never change, FIA and stewards.


They really f'd this race up.
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