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re: 2022 Formula 1 Season Thread
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:51 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:51 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
That’s fair.
You know, you get hate in this thread as well, but I would bet you’re a decent guy. The internet has made us all assholes.
You know, you get hate in this thread as well, but I would bet you’re a decent guy. The internet has made us all assholes.
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:15 am to sorantable
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You know, you get hate in this thread as well, but I would bet you’re a decent guy. The internet has made us all a-holes.
I believe most of us have an online persona that is much different than the person you meet in real life.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 2:28 pm to sorantable
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I promise you’re just as big a hypocrite in your own ways, yet you give yourself much more grace than you afford others. Hopefully you’ll grow up and realize this someday. I did, and it’s benefited my worldview immensely.
There's a massive difference between being a nobody whose hypocrisy affects no one but maybe family and close friends, and being a famous person who has a huge platform to spout their opinions.
Politically I have no problem with Hamilton's and Vettel's SJW, climate, and other opinions per se, but I also recognize the jaw-dropping hypocrisy of them preaching this stuff from within F1. F1 is the most visible showcase of capitalist wretched excess in so many ways. It's just amazing to see these guys participate in this wretched excess and then preach to us about making the world a better place.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 3:25 pm to sorantable
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I peruse lots of threads on this site, and you literally can’t post anything without a conservative poster shitting all over it by bringing in a (typically racially-charged) political angle.
Know how I know you're a POS, unthinking progressive?
Everyone you don't agree with is a racist.
btw-A number of people, myself included, have shite on Vettel as much or more than Ham, yet you claim to never see it.
FO shitbird. You're ruining the thread.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 3:34 pm to BuckyCheese
Why the hell are people talking about political bull crap in this thread anyway?
As far as I have read everyone thinks any driver who is preaching climate change carbon foot print is a hypocritical a-hole given his profession and how many multiple millions it has made them.
As far as it being difficult for a young black man finding it rough going when starting his career in karting, I see no one disagreeing that was most likely very hard and isolating.
Can we just stop pointing fingers at everyone and saying racist, bigot, or uneducated moron every time someone says I don’t like driver X.
Now back to what matters, Ferrai strategist are dog shite. And no I don’t hate Italians, this is simply a statement about that team sucking in this aspect.
As far as I have read everyone thinks any driver who is preaching climate change carbon foot print is a hypocritical a-hole given his profession and how many multiple millions it has made them.
As far as it being difficult for a young black man finding it rough going when starting his career in karting, I see no one disagreeing that was most likely very hard and isolating.
Can we just stop pointing fingers at everyone and saying racist, bigot, or uneducated moron every time someone says I don’t like driver X.
Now back to what matters, Ferrai strategist are dog shite. And no I don’t hate Italians, this is simply a statement about that team sucking in this aspect.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 3:39 pm to 225rumpshaker
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Why the hell are people talking about political bull crap in this thread anyway?
This has been my point in this thread from the beginning. I only care about F1 in the thread.
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Now back to what matters, Ferrai strategist are dog shite.
As a Scuderia Ferrari fan they make me
Posted on 7/26/22 at 3:51 pm to 225rumpshaker
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Now back to what matters, Ferrai strategist are dog shite.
I often think that Haas must have gotten it's strat guys in the deal for PU's and suspension.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:01 pm to 225rumpshaker
So I have listened to and read several conflicting arguments on the Ferrari FGP decision at the end.
The issue I have with everyone piling on Ferrari is NO one knows how many laps those blistered up arse tyres Carlos was rolling had left.
It's easy to Monday Morning Team Principal the thing and say they should have risked it BUT they had P5 locked up even with 5 sec penalty.
You stay out and go into the blue and red stripes you get 0 pts and your fricked.
The new tyres also got him fastest Lap if I am not mistaken.
But let's hammer it out, would love to hear counter point....
The issue I have with everyone piling on Ferrari is NO one knows how many laps those blistered up arse tyres Carlos was rolling had left.
It's easy to Monday Morning Team Principal the thing and say they should have risked it BUT they had P5 locked up even with 5 sec penalty.
You stay out and go into the blue and red stripes you get 0 pts and your fricked.
The new tyres also got him fastest Lap if I am not mistaken.
But let's hammer it out, would love to hear counter point....
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:03 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:seb was an insufferable prick before he even turned into a shaggy haired granola. Nobody hates on him now because he's as relevant as a long snapper
btw-A number of people, myself included, have shite on Vettel as much or more than Ham, yet you claim to never see it.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:04 pm to BleedPnG
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So I have listened to and read several conflicting arguments on the Ferrari FGP decision at the end.
The issue I have with everyone piling on Ferrari is NO one knows how many laps those blistered up arse tyres Carlos was rolling had left.
It's easy to Monday Morning Team Principal the thing and say they should have risked it BUT they had P5 locked up even with 5 sec penalty.
You stay out and go into the blue and red stripes you get 0 pts and your fricked.
The new tyres also got him fastest Lap if I am not mistaken.
But let's hammer it out, would love to hear counter point.
I think they're getting a lot of heat on the last pit based on them telling him to box as he was overtaking. Now that was absolutely insane. I think the decision to box at the end of the race was 50/50 as you are right, he had the 5 second penalty anyway and he could have ended up in the wall due to the blistering had they not boxed him.
Long story short, I think had we not known they were trying to box him during the overtake earlier in the race the decision at the end of the race wouldn't be getting so much scrutiny
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Sainz was also asking to box earlier and was told to stay out then it was "box, box, box!" so as always with Ferrari and strategy there seemed to be confusion.
The bottom line is that Sainz drove a brilliant race. He may not be the fastest Ferrari driver but he is damned good and is willing to give his input on the radio which has been right more than a fair amount of the time.
The bottom line is that Sainz drove a brilliant race. He may not be the fastest Ferrari driver but he is damned good and is willing to give his input on the radio which has been right more than a fair amount of the time.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:22 pm to BleedPnG
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But let's hammer it out, would love to hear counter point....
My opinion, which means jack shits btw, is that they should have pitted him earlier or not at all. I lean towards not at all. The timing of their call to pit made no fricking sense to me.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:25 pm to VABuckeye
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Sainz was also asking to box earlier and was told to stay out then it was "box, box, box!" so as always with Ferrari and strategy there seemed to be confusion.
This is where a lot of the issue is. They were planning to run to the end while Carlos wanted tires. Then, with ten laps to go, and after he just passed Serg and his RB, they decide he needs tires.
It comes across as nonsensical. In the end it probably didn't make much difference, but he HAD just passed Perez so it is quite possible he could have gotten 5 seconds clear of him and ended up on the podium. Especially with Russell battling for fourth.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:26 pm to BottomlandBrew
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My opinion, which means jack shits btw, is that they should have pitted him earlier or not at all. I lean towards not at all. The timing of their call to pit made no fricking sense to me.
I think they were terrified of the car not making it until the end of the race and getting 0 points after having the best car on track.
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he HAD just passed Perez so it is quite possible he could have gotten 5 seconds clear of him and ended up on the podium. Especially with Russell battling for fourth.
I think the chance he gets 5 seconds ahead with a blistered Tyre is next to zero, even with the racing behind him, which I think had a lot to do with bringing him in. Again, they should have had the winner of the Grand Prix and getting 0 points in that race is near fatal. It's definitely the more conservative play, but I'm not incensed about it considering the circumstances
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:28 pm to VABuckeye
Agreed the guy can flat out drive!
I thought the issue with pitting him earlier was the fear of the 5 sec penalty and the potential to not have enough time to make it back into top 5?
Your talking 30 seconds penalty + pit.
I thought the issue with pitting him earlier was the fear of the 5 sec penalty and the potential to not have enough time to make it back into top 5?
Your talking 30 seconds penalty + pit.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:34 pm to VABuckeye
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The bottom line is that Sainz drove a brilliant race. He may not be the fastest Ferrari driver but he is damned good and is willing to give his input on the radio which has been right more than a fair amount of the time.
My favorite driver. I hate to think about how good of a season he would be having if it wasn't for Ferrari and their stupid PU's.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:36 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I think they were terrified of the car not making it until the end of the race and getting 0 points after having the best car on track.
I can see their point of view. They were really only losing 1 point with the pit stop, assuming Sainz went out and got fastest lap. It just seemed risky to me. If you bring him in, you risk a bad pit stop. If you leave him out, you risk a tire exploding. What's more likely - a mechanical failure or a human failure? I will always bet on a human to fail over a mechanical object. They obviously have more tire data than I do and have more faith in their pit crew than I do.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:37 pm to BleedPnG
quote:I think the stuff with Ferrari isn’t just restrained to this one race, but rather culmination on the year with screw ups all around the following from this race alone.
But let's hammer it out, would love to hear counter point....
Slow stop
Unsafe release
Tells driver to pit during overtake
Informed Saniz of the wrong penalty (5 sec stop/go) that he had to correct pit wall on
Honestly it just seemed once Charles went out the ponies were scrambling with what the hell to do. Just seemed frazzled as a whole and it’s a shame because Sainz was dealing this weekend.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:41 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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How do you say shite like this without linking the comment?
Thought it was deleted.
I don't think it was racist per se, but it definitely showed it wasn't just his political leanings that gets under your skin.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:43 pm to BottomlandBrew
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If you bring him in, you risk a bad pit stop. If you leave him out, you risk a tire exploding. What's more likely - a mechanical failure or a human failure? I will always bet on a human to fail over a mechanical object. They obviously have more tire data than I do and have more faith in their pit crew than I do.
I don't necessarily disagree but even max said on the radio that everyone was struggling with front tires and Sainz already had a pretty bad blister. I mean, I don't really know if there's a good answer. They were kind of between a rock and a hard place and I think the result they got was just about as good as they could do, though there's definitely a valid arguement that it was despite not because of their planning/execution
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