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re: 2021 Pro Cycling Thread-Julian Alaphilippe is Your World Champ Again!
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:25 am to castorinho
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:25 am to castorinho
DQT is such a fun team. They have built one hell of a stable
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:30 am to Drank
Poor Phil couldn't say "Alpecin Fenix" to save his life there at the end 
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:04 am to crazyLSUstudent
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CAV IS BACK BABY
I did not expect this form from him. I was actually hoping it just wouldn't be embarrassing for him because I have always liked him.
MVDP related. So weird to see the yellow jersey cranking on the head of a lead-out. I wonder how long before he leaves the tour for the Olympics. Going back to the Riis/MDVP picture from yesterday it has to be a real kick in the nuts to his sponsors when he rides with so much non-sponsored gear both on his bike and his body. I don't think he was wearing a single item from his sponsors but he had no option with his skinsuit being in yellow. To add insult to injury the choice of Princeton wheels was highlighted by the press talking about it due to the drive to get them from Andorra.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:29 pm to Obtuse1
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To add insult to injury the choice of Princeton wheels was highlighted by the press talking about it due to the drive to get them from Andorra.
not to mention those wheels are likely a big part of the reason he is still in yellow. Totally plausible those wheels were worth 4 seconds over that distance
The cockpit change was probably just personal preferecne as the bike was originally outfitted with a Wattshop cockpit and they are among the best.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 7/1/21 at 3:18 pm to gmrkr5
I seldom hear any of the commentators for the Tour De France make mention of bike brands. Seems like something that would get beat to death like is done in car racing. Anyone else find that strange?
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:32 pm to Black n Gold
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I seldom hear any of the commentators for the Tour De France make mention of bike brands. Seems like something that would get beat to death like is done in car racing. Anyone else find that strange?
In non-spec series in car racing, the manufacturers are generally a large sponsor of the team. In bike racing, they generally aren't a significant sponsor outside of providing the bikes. There are only a few manufacturers financially capable of being a main sponsor. Companies like Pinarello, Wilier, Colnago and Cervelo only make higher end for the most part and don't sell large volumes. Only companies like Trek, Specialized and Giant could be a main sponsor. Trek and KTM are current main sponsors B&B Hotels p/b KTM and Trek Segafredo. So if you don't pay the big bucks you don't really get talked about unless it is relevant like mentioning last year it was the first TdF win on Colnago bikes for a long time. If you do pay the big bucks you get your name mentioned every time the team is mentioned.
They do get lots of shots of their logo and name from the motorcycle cameras which often zoom in on details like components and badging.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:44 pm to Obtuse1
Remember page 1 or 2 I said Cav couldn’t win a stage
Well I like my crow blackened with a side of coleslaw and lemonade please
Well I like my crow blackened with a side of coleslaw and lemonade please
Posted on 7/1/21 at 4:58 pm to sms151t
I was pretty high on him due to his performances at the tour of Belgium and some lower level races in Belgium. To me it was clear his form was good enough to win a stage. I didn't expect him to win multiple though.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 6:24 pm to crazyLSUstudent
Wow Cav, he is impressive.
does he get to 34 stage wins? He def has a chance, he is clearly the fastest man in the tour.
does he get to 34 stage wins? He def has a chance, he is clearly the fastest man in the tour.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 7:39 pm to Black n Gold
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I seldom hear any of the commentators for the Tour De France make mention of bike brands. Seems like something that would get beat to death like is done in car racing. Anyone else find that strange?
There isn't mythology around the bike brands anymore since everybody has offshored production to Asia.
When Pantani did the double in 1998 you started seeing people on the roads riding celeste Bianchis because it was a legendary Italian brand ridden by an Italian rider who was becoming a legend so there was a compelling story around it. Same kind of thing with Lance and Trek, plus Lance marketed Trek heavily even though sometimes the actual bike he raced was rebranded.
Now all the bike companies are pretty much generic so even Colnago has lost that sense of importance and there's no reason for announcers to talk about it. It's not like in car racing where manufacturers still play a part in the success or failure by building engines or whatever. In cycling it's mainly just been about the story and that's disappeared.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:01 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Daily update and preview in post 2.
Gonna watch my hawks get absolutely destroyed now.
Mountains comin up this weekend.
Completed the Roka 100KM Strava challenge today so that was fun and get $50 off of Roka eyewear that I won’t use so if anyone wants the code lmk…and now I can’t stop eating. I forgot how quickly cycling gets that metabolism going
Happy almost Friday to you all.
Gonna watch my hawks get absolutely destroyed now.
Mountains comin up this weekend.
Completed the Roka 100KM Strava challenge today so that was fun and get $50 off of Roka eyewear that I won’t use so if anyone wants the code lmk…and now I can’t stop eating. I forgot how quickly cycling gets that metabolism going
Happy almost Friday to you all.
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:31 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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There isn't mythology around the bike brands anymore since everybody has offshored production to Asia.
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Lance marketed Trek heavily even though sometimes the actual bike he raced was rebranded.
The whole evolution of bikes in the peloton is interesting. You mentioned rebranded bikes. The legend of manufacturers like Pinarello, Colnago and Bianchi were primarily built on frames designed and built by small independent master builders instead of the factories. The last steel bike to win the Tour was ridden by Indurain and despite being badged a Pinarello it was almost certainly built by Pegoretti, Dario is dead now but his shop still makes some of the sexiest frames in the world assuming you like the look of a steel frame.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:36 pm to Obtuse1
Hat trick on today’s stage
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:41 pm to Drank
So happy for Cav so here’s some copy/paste from Roleur
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A champion Tour de France sprinter has more in common with a Grand Slam tennis player or a Premier League central midfielder than they do some of their companions in the professional peloton. Winning a sprint at the Tour isn’t only about pushing big watts. It requires making instinctive, split-second decisions under extreme physical and psychological stress. The very best appear to make it look easy, as if time had slowed down just for them. There is no doubt that Mark Cavendish is the very best. Listening to him analyse his efforts in the immediate aftermath of what was his 32nd Tour stage win and his third in the town of Châteauroux, it was clear the Manx Missile had yet again stopped the clock. “The wind was coming from the right, Michael [Mørkøv] left the left for me to go, but I wanted just a split second longer in the wheels before I went, so I had to switch trains and go from there,” he said. Cav’s instinctive unhitching from the best lead-out man in the world as two Belgian high-speed expresses, Deceuninck-Quick-Step and Alpecin-Fenix, drag raced for control lasted just a handful of seconds. His exceptional ability to pick his way through chaotic and unpredictable high-speed chess matches at the Tour has lasted 13 years. When he took his debut win at Châteauroux in 2008, Tadej Pogacar was just nine years old. His last win here was 10 years ago. He remembered both like they were yesterday. “2008 it was uphill a bit… I think it was further down the road…?” he pondered in the winner’s interview. “2011 we were short from the finish I think, still uphill.” Time has a different quality for Mark Cavendish. That’s why he’s the greatest sprinter of the modern era.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 8:05 am to Drank
Fascinating stage today
Posted on 7/2/21 at 8:29 am to crazyLSUstudent
Morning fellas 
I'm on island time and just woke up, I miss anything?
I'm on island time and just woke up, I miss anything?
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:28 am to BlackCoffeeKid
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, I miss anything?
Um..to put it mildly, YES
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:32 am to Drank
Just tuned in. THis tour has not disappointed
There goes Van Aert.
There goes Van Aert.
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:35 am to castorinho
Carapaz is absolutely flying. Holy hell.
Posted on 7/2/21 at 9:36 am to usc6158
This is one of the best stages in years. They need to go back to longer stages like this. It's the only way you see cracks in these guys. They are too good otherwise
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