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re: 2015 NBA Offseason Thread - FA/Trade News and Rumors Here

Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Bunta
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:40 am to
He goes on to say:

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It’s easy to look at a spreadsheet and criticize the Pelicans. The combination of restricted free agency and the ability to offer a super-max “Derrick Rose Rule” contract gave them about as much leverage as any team will have over a star player. Signing the one-year qualifying offer, as Greg Monroe did to shake free of Detroit, would have cost Davis $16 million in 2016-17 and as much as $30 million over the course of five years. He wasn’t going to do it.

But the Pelicans aren’t the Spurs, and Davis isn’t Leonard. He’s a generational superstar, and making him wait a year might have irked him. If things went poorly, Davis could have signed a three-year deal with another team, forced the Pelicans to match, and started the clock ticking toward his inevitable and premature divorce from New Orleans.

The Pelicans couldn’t afford even that small risk — not with a player like this, in a small market familiar with losing stars to glitzier places. Sometimes, spreadsheets don’t matter.


But he wants to be in NO, so why should they have worried?
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 10:41 am
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:44 am to
Hmmm. In a way, it seems like they are admitting they will lose him eventually, so they might as well do everything they can to keep them here as long as possible, even if that means sacrificing team success. Not sure I like it. Deep playoff runs will keep Davis in New Orleans. Great talent around him will ensure several of those.
Posted by brgfather129
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 10:54 am to
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Why did they do this? I see no benefit.


Essentially the reason Andre hasn't gotten his extension yet...the Pistons will have 13MM more to spend if they wait. They left it up to Andre...If the security is important, then the extension will be done this summer.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:15 am to
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In a way, it seems like they are admitting they will lose him eventually, so they might as well do everything they can to keep them here as long as possible, even if that means sacrificing team success.


No.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:31 am to
So butthurt about this FA period that you have resulted to bashing Zach Lowe
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:34 am to
Well that was hardly an article worthy of an insider. I could have written that.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:34 am to
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@MarcMundet78
Marc Gasol: "I've never thought other option that wasn't Memphis. That's why I haven't met with anybody, despite I knew about the interest".


Love this guy so much


quote:

@MarcMundet78
Marc Gasol: "I don't know how will go Mike's extension. He told me that if I was there, he'd be there. I hope he keeps his word".


Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:35 am to
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:35 am to
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Hmmm. In a way, it seems like they are admitting they will lose him eventually, so they might as well do everything they can to keep them here as long as possible, even if that means sacrificing team success. Not sure I like it. Deep playoff runs will keep Davis in New Orleans. Great talent around him will ensure several of those.



You will get bashed by Pels fans. They seem to think it is impossible he plays anywhere else in his career.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:35 am to
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No.


I have now changed my mind. Your wonderful counter argument has convinced me. Quality post.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 11:36 am
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 11:36 am to
What's funny? What was so great about that article?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:05 pm to
what?
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:14 pm to
I usually think all fans are the same but lakers fans are acting a special level of delusional homers this offseason. Is everybody Baghdad bob?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:14 pm to
what?
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:16 pm to
You guys are actingb like Zach Lowe is talking out of his arse
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:17 pm to
So, the Pelicans create $10M in cap space. So what? Nobody available for $10M this year was putting this team over the top. Furthermore, you sacrifice your MLE by going under the cap. You would end up bringing back nearly the same roster or minimal upgrade by offering that $10M in a long term deal, actually costing yourself an additional $10M of flexibility in next year's free agency period when Davis gets the same amount of money.

I'd rather add that $10M in flexibility to next year's books where we have about $24M expiring. Lowe was pretty short-sighted in that analysis.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:18 pm to
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But he wants to be in NO, so why should they have worried?


Do you not think paying him what he deserves a year before they have to might ingratiate him to the franchise a little more?
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:19 pm to
You should probably read it again before calling his analysis short sided. The 10 mil extra would be next offseason.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:19 pm to
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So what? Nobody available for $10M this year was putting this team over the top.


quote:

You would end up bringing back nearly the same roster or minimal upgrade by offering that $10M in a long term deal, actually costing yourself an additional $10M of flexibility in next year's free agency period when Davis gets the same amount of money.


quote:

I'd rather add that $10M in flexibility to next year's books where we have about $24M expiring. Lowe was pretty short-sighted in that analysis.


From the article:

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They sacrificed about $10 million in cap space next summer by extending Davis now


You just don't read well
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 12:28 pm to
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You just don't read well


I actually missed that paragraph, but congrats on being arrogant.
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