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re: 2003: The Year College Football Failed

Posted on 3/12/26 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 4:14 pm to
Guess they shouldn't have agreed to the BCS then, huh? And lost to 8-5 Cal.
The precedent had already been set in 2000 when Miami was #1 in both the AP and Coaches but #3 in the BCS.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 4:21 pm to
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And lost to 8-5 Cal.


If memory serves, USC also didn't play in a conference championship game either. While LSU and OU were playing solid teams, they beat a garbage Oregon State team the last week of the season while the media gave them blow jobs for that win.

The USC media love fest during that time was bad, but nothing like the extreme bias Bama would get a decade later.

One of my favorite ESPN-Blowing-USC moments was when one of their WRs was up for a reward against Larry Fitzgerald from Pitt. In order to justify USC's fake split, they put together a panel to basically compare the top USC players to whoever was a top player from another team, or a player that won a post season reward. I'll never forget this because it was one of the last times I watched that garbage network outside of a game broadcast.

This idiot panel spent 15 minutes telling us USC should have part of the title because their WR, who never made it in the NFL, was going to be a hall of famer and Larry Fitzgerald woulld be out of the league within a year. LOLOLOL

The opposite happened.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7718 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 4:27 pm to
That was my first year watching CFB. Oh if only we could go back.
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/12/26 at 4:30 pm to
I never got how them beating Michigan was viewed as some sort of National Championship game. OU may have gotten blown out in their conference championship game but they were still much better than Michigan.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81240 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 4:34 pm to
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was having to play another top ten opponent in UGA, beat them,


LSU would've still been in had they lost to UGA.

Ironically though, LSU losing in the SECCG could've possibly hurt Bama's resume enough to where it actually would've been LSU vs Ok St.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10921 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 4:54 pm to
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That makes no logical sense. You can't argue Bama was the obviously better team and then say you'd favor the lesser team just because a 2OT game when the other way.


the games that were already played have to have more meaning than your guesses on outcomes of future games.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177293 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 6:16 pm to
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The one about Saban being hot at LSU

That one too
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS
Member since Mar 2004
73187 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 6:33 pm to
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No, they didn’t. There was a perception that they mattered, but they didn’t.


Yeah, eat a dick. The orange bowl was amazing.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71135 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 6:44 pm to
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The precedent had already been set in 2000 when Miami was #1 in both the AP and Coaches but #3 in the BCS.



Oklahoma, who finished the season undefeated, was ranked #1 in both polls and the BCS. The controversy was Miami (#2 in both human polls) and Florida State (#3 in both human polls). Florida State finished #2 in the BCS despite the fact that Miami beat them on the field.

At least get the facts correct.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 6:47 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71135 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 6:54 pm to
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I never got how them beating Michigan was viewed as some sort of National Championship game.


It wasn't.

However, I think Pete Carroll was referencing a time before the BCS when you would have match-ups like #1 USC vs. #4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl and #2 LSU vs. #3 Oklahoma in the Cotton Bowl or the Sugar Bowl (using human polls only, of course). In his eyes USC was the top ranked team going into the postseason, they won their game, so why should they then be penalized?

As the head coach of the USC Trojans, did you expect him to be like, "Golly, we're a good team but the winner of the LSU-OU match-up should be national champions,"?
Posted by Me
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2003
5289 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:05 pm to
I didn't expect Keith Jackson to say after the game something to the effect of "I don't care what happens Monday night I just saw the national champions"
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
6989 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:30 pm to
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The precedent had already been set in 2000 when Miami was #1 in both the AP and Coaches but #3 in the BCS.

And had FSU beaten OU in the Orange Bowl, Miami would have won the AP title and we would have had spilt champions. So it would have been no different than 2003.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 7:31 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7718 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:15 pm to
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Oklahoma, who finished the season undefeated, was ranked #1 in both polls and the BCS. The controversy was Miami (#2 in both human polls) and Florida State (#3 in both human polls). Florida State finished #2 in the BCS despite the fact that Miami beat them on the field.

At least get the facts correct.

Which is exactly what I said so you finally agree.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71135 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:30 pm to
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Which is exactly what I said so you finally agree.


Sure, dude. As a poster above so astutely observed, had Florida State defeated Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl, it is likely Miami would have split the title with them as they already had the head-to-head. So Oklahoma defeated FSU and was already undefeated, they remained #1 while 11-1 Miami finished behind them at #2.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7718 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58179 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:56 pm to
OU should not have gotten in after it got smoked
Posted by TheFenceGuy
Member since Jan 2026
87 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 8:58 pm to
2003 could've been LSU USCw if the media could've gotten their head out of their arse and admitted they had overrated OU and voted that way in the polls.

Like most always, and especially at other times like 2011, the media is by far the biggest enemy of the fans of CFB.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172246 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:01 pm to
The absolute state of the MSB OU fans avoiding this thread in favor of defending the gay arse thunder.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
4266 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:05 pm to
It's amazing how Oklahoma ALWAYS gets in whether it's the BCS or the CFP. They always get in.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7718 posts
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:10 pm to
OU made it in because of the computers, not the media. That's why the formula was changed from 50/50 to 1/3 media poll 1/3 coaches poll 1/3 computers.
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