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re: 2003: The Year College Football Failed
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:32 pm to VADawg
Posted on 3/11/26 at 8:32 pm to VADawg
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How they went from steamroller in their first 11 games to completely impotent in their last two will always be one of college football's great mysteries to me.
LSUs defense is an easy answer for half of that. But yeah the k state game I still now don't understand wtf happened.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 9:01 pm to VermilionTiger
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The BCS got it right every year outside of 2003/2004
2011 was an abomination.
The pro-Bama media jihad created a situation where LSU’s reward for beating Bama in the “Game of the Century” was having to play another top ten opponent in UGA, beat them, and then beat Alabama again.
Bama’s penalty for losing on its home field to LSU was a free pass into the national championship game.
In essence, LSU had to go 3-0 vs Bama twice and UGA once. Bama simply had to go 1-1.
That’s the day college football started it’s decline. The so called “playoff” is nothing more than a made for TV invitational
Posted on 3/11/26 at 9:25 pm to S
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They went from beating aggy 77-0 to playing
#9 defense k state
#1 defense LSU
Hey, their the #1 scoring defense, we (Oklahoma) is the #1 total defense.
Posted on 3/11/26 at 9:27 pm to lsusa
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2011 was an abomination.
The purpose of the BCS was to get the best 2 teams. Those were the best 2 teams
It isn’t the BCS’ responsibility to uphold the “regular season is a playoff” mantra
They got it right, unfortunately
Posted on 3/11/26 at 9:41 pm to RollTide1987
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It's hard to believe how star-studded that year was.
Yet the Heisman went to Jason White
Posted on 3/11/26 at 10:08 pm to VermilionTiger
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It isn’t the BCS’ responsibility to uphold the “regular season is a playoff” mantra
The literally used the slogan “every game counts”.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 1:12 am to Paul Allen
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That 2003 Oklahoma offense was insanely good
"Greatest Team of All Time"
of 2003
Posted on 3/12/26 at 6:45 am to lsusa
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The literally used the slogan “every game counts”.
Then literally dropped it immediately after the Game of the Century didn't yield the results they were expecting.
To the other poster that said the BCS got it right in 2011....the BCS wasn't around, or at least the standard BCS. Had the normal BCS been in place, LSU plays OSU as Bama played one of the weakest schedules for a championship game team in decades.
CFB has, and always will be, a beauty contest catered to the media darlings. Every time a media darling couldn't meet whatever criteria was in place, the media immediately lobbied to change the formulas. 2003 USC fails, so we change the BCS formula. 2011 Bama can't win a big home game (AGAIN) so we have to remove "Every Game Counts" with the "eye test". And so on....
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:04 am to VermilionTiger
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Those were the best 2 teams
No, OSU had a way better argument to be in the game. Stop it. Yes, Bama won the mulligan they were gifted based solely off their name, but that doesn't change any of the actual facts.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:08 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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CFB didn't realize they had a good thing, in its messiness, ambiguity and quest for the MNC which entailed a myriad of factors beyond a team's control. Controversy sells because it creates endless discussion. But CFB caved to the cries of the pro football crowd, demanding order and fairness in a decidedly disorganized, loosely governed sport. The endless playoff model and continuous tinkering has robbed CFB of its untidy beauty which made it unique and special among other "Pro" sports alternatives. When the Title was mythical, the sport was legendary...we'll never have it so good again. This
Great post
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:10 am to witty alias
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And that’s the way it should have always been. Just like every other sport.
So dumb.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:39 am to boston vol
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How they went from steamroller in their first 11 games to completely impotent in their last two will always be one of college football's great mysteries to me.
Here are the defensive rankings of their B12 opponents in 2003. LSU and KSt were top ten. They were certainly good on offense, but I think it’s fair to say that their numbers were inflated due to competition.
Iowa State-109th
Texas-32nd
Missouri-38th
Colorado-98th
OK St-58th
A&M-115th
Baylor-112th
T Tech-101st
Here is the whole regular season with the scoring defense rankings and points scored by OU. I used https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/opponent-points-per-game?date=2004-01-05 for my ranking data
North Texas-31st-37 points
Alabama-55th-20 points
Fresno State-41st-52 points
UCLA-43rd-59 points
Iowa State-112th-53 points
Texas-29th-65 points
Missouri-46th-34 points
Colorado-93rd-34 points
OK St-70th-52 points
A&M-111th-77 points
Baylor-115th-41 points
T Tech-96th-56 points
K State-9th-7 points
LSU-1st-14 points
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:40 am to LNCHBOX
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Those were the best 2 teams
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No, OSU had a way better argument to be in the game.
Better argument and better team are two different things.
I agree that 2011 LSU’s situation sucked, but I think most believe that Alabama (mulligan or not) was the best team that year.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:54 am to Globetrotter747
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Better argument and better team are two different things.
Yea, one is based on fact, the other is some bullshite eye test. you have no idea who would have won between OSU and Bama. What we factually know is that OSU accomplished more than Bama. They had an objectively better season winning more games against ranked teams. The only argument against them was "better loss" which is fricking ridiculous given everything else. Literally every other team not named Bama would not have been given that opportunity.
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but I think most believe that Alabama (mulligan or not) was the best team that year.
Yea that's the fricking problem. They didn't show it on the field. Everyone doubted Indiana this year until they won the last game. And even this year you had tards saying Bama was better than them for no reason other than the Bama name.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 7:56 am
Posted on 3/12/26 at 7:57 am to lsusa
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The pro-Bama media jihad created a situation where LSU’s reward for beating Bama in the “Game of the Century” was having to play another top ten opponent in UGA, beat them, and then beat Alabama again. Bama’s penalty for losing on its home field to LSU was a free pass into the national championship game. In essence, LSU had to go 3-0 vs Bama twice and UGA once. Bama simply had to go 1-1. That’s the day college football started it’s decline. The so called “playoff” is nothing more than a made for TV invitational
LSU got screwed royally by muli-Bama, Saban whining on TV and NCAA
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:36 am to LNCHBOX
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No, OSU had a way better argument to be in the game.
Not really.
*in before false ESPN graphic*
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:45 am to GoGators1995
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Not really.
Yes, really.
Posted on 3/12/26 at 9:47 am to GoGators1995
In what way was Bama deserving of a mulligan? They lost at home to us. Oklahoma St and Bama each had 4 ranked wins and each had 1 loss. Oklahoma St also won their conference. No other program in America would have gotten a do over except maybe Notre Dame. It was ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/12/26 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/12/26 at 10:11 am to LNCHBOX
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Yea, one is based on fact, the other is some bullshite eye test. you have no idea who would have won between OSU and Bama.
Nope. But I know who I would bet on if my life had depended on it, and it’s probably the same answer as 99% of people here.
It wouldn’t be the team that lost to Iowa State.
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