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re: 1995 Nebraska dominant stats

Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Interesting to see how modern teams would handle not being able to throw over middle of the field.
They would still throw over the middle
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
331 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:19 pm to
So Steve Atwater would be sending a bunch of guys to the hospital.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:23 pm to
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So Steve Atwater would be sending a bunch of guys to the hospital


There's a name that strikes fear in the hearts of receivers and Nigerian running backs
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111249 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:26 pm to
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So Steve Atwater would be sending a bunch of guys to the hospital.

Posted by Tiger Dominance
Bossier City, LA
Member since Oct 2007
543 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:29 pm to
I think one of the records that is going to be very hard for future teams to top LSU is that LSU was undefeated while playing 7 top ten teams and 4 top 5 teams.
Posted by LSU Otter
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:01 pm to
Agreed - that will be a tough one to break. What Nebraska did in 95, prior to the current playoff format, was similarly impressive: they beat 4 teams that finished in the Top 10 by an average of 31 points. Heck, they had over 560 yards rushing against a Saban defense. KSU had the #2 scoring defense in the country that year — over 1/3 of the points they allowed the entire season came at the hands of the Huskers. Tommie Frazier was the MVP of 3 straight national championship games, a record that also will likely never be broken. Had a 60-3 record over a 5-year period, with 4 NCG appearances (winning 3). Now that’s dominance.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 7:22 pm
Posted by LSU Otter
Member since Jan 2020
37 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:13 pm to
Most people remember Grant Wistrom and Jared Tomich and the Peter Bros., but many overlook the fact that Nebraska’s defensive backfield was solid as well. Several of their DBs & safeties went on to solid NFL careers: Michael Booker, Mike Minter, Tony Veland, Eric Warfield, Jamel Williams, & Tyrone Williams were all drafted. LSU’s WRs wouldn’t have had it as easy as some people think.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:22 pm to
I think we can all agree that Nebraska 95 and LSU 19 are the two best of their era

Great teams that were reflections of each other in terms of dominance but polar opposites in terms of how they dominated
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:27 pm to
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I think we can all agree that Nebraska 95 and LSU 19 are the two best of their era


I can agree to two OF the best.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:59 pm to
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Tommie Frazier was the MVP of 3 straight national championship games, a record that also will likely never be broken. Had a 60-3 record over a 5-year period, with 4 NCG appearances (winning 3). Now that’s dominance.


Not accurate. They won back to back. Then in 96 they lost the big 12 championship vs Texas. Scott Frost was the qb. Then the following year, they destroyed a Peyton Manning led Tennessee, splitting the title with Michigan. Frost was also the qb. Osborne last game.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:03 pm to
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I think one of the records that is going to be very hard for future teams to top LSU is that LSU was undefeated while playing 7 top ten teams and 4 top 5 teams.


Until the playoffs expand. At that point records will start dropping with the extra game
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27746 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:08 pm to
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reasons that cannot and should not be compared.
Ask these clowns would they rather have a 1995 Ford F150 or a 2020 Ford F150.
Posted by LSU Otter
Member since Jan 2020
37 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:54 pm to
Sorry, I should have worded it differently.

Frazier was the MVP of 3 straight NC games. He was co-MVP of the 94 Orange Bowl that the Huskers lost to FSU.

Nebraska had a 60-3 record over a 5-year period, with 4 NCG appearances, winning three. Frost was the QB of the last one.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:27 pm to
I saw that team play. I don’t think there’s a team in the history of college football that could stay within two touchdowns of them. The amount of talent they put on the field was absurd. As good as LSU was this year they wouldn’t have a shot. Think 85 bears defense. Nobody would. The way they beat Florida in that Bowl game... four possessions into it you knew it was over.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 5:42 pm to
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I didn’t make my post clear


Oh you did. You are doing what you always do - make some asinine pro-Saints/LSU, get called on it, try to walk it back, can proven wrong, dig in and then throw a tantrum.

I’m guessing that last part will come in after you read my post.

And weight =/= strength. Ask Aaron Donald and JJ Watt about that.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84604 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:12 pm to
It’s funny to me that people think players in the mid 1990s weren’t big and fast. That wasn’t that long ago lol
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33717 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 6:42 pm to
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It’s funny to me that people think players in the mid 1990s weren’t big and fast.


I remember when andro was legal.
Posted by LSU Otter
Member since Jan 2020
37 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 7:17 pm to
Some of these LSU fans you just can’t argue with. You can slap them in the face with statistics and data to disprove their statements and they’ll say, “yeah, well, LSU is still the best.”

For comparison, LSU’s final Sagarin rating this season, (which includes all sorts of data including strength of schedule, margin of victory, and numerous other criteria) was 104.88, which is 3rd best all-time since the BCS era began (behind 2005 Texas & 2001 Miami). 1995 Nebraska had a Sagarin of 117.05.

Wistrom & Tomich would have harassed Burrow all night long. Heck, the best player on the entire defense imo was LB Terrell Farley - guy was an absolute stud who could have wrecked shite if not for his off-the-field idiocy. LSU wouldn’t have known whether to shite or wind their wristwatch, trying to deal w/ him.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 7:27 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84604 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:11 pm to
It’s not just LSU fans. It’s recency bias and the fact that a lot of posters here are too young to remember teams from 15+ years ago. They assume that football players couldn’t possibly have been as big and fast back then as they are now, as if the human body has evolved in the past 20 years

This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77205 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:19 pm to
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the human body has evolved in the past 20 years
The human body hasn’t, but the sciences around weightlifting and exercise have continued to evolve.

Just look at the progression of world records from 1995 onward.

Either humans continued to evolve, which we both disagree on, or there is another factor.

The science behind it has been evolving.

Take a look at the fastest athletes at the combine. Only one is from pre-2000. The rest are pretty much post-2005 onward.
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