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re: 1995 Nebraska dominant stats

Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:48 am to
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Which means a gimmick offense like Nebraska's



This is the most amazing thing I’ve ever read on tigerdroppings


Only in 2020 can lining up and running over your arse be a gimmick.

They'd probably get flagged for unnecessary roughness if they tried to play that style today.
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
331 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:50 am to
Is there any hope that the current era of pass happy 'gimmick' offenses will end and we can return to physical run based football?
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:53 am to
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There is a reason that you don't see many teams run that type of offense today. Basically, it's harder to be successful today than it was in the past, due to the amount of information and planning that goes into the game plans each week.


Planning and information had nothing to do with it. The defense knew exactly what was coming and couldn't do a damn thing about it.

The reason people don't run that style anymore isn't because it wouldn't work, it's because the rules today benefit the passing game, and everybody with a right arm thinks they're a future NFL QB. You don't find people like Tommie Frazier, Jamele Hollaway, Thomas Lott, etc who are willing to play QB in a run based system because they all think they're the next Lamar Jackson, and want to "showcase their talents".

Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:54 am to
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Is there any hope that the current era of pass happy 'gimmick' offenses will end and we can return to physical run based football?


It would take tort reform and generation of vaginas to die off.

I'm afraid the game of football will be basketball on grass for the rest of my lifetime, which makes me naseaus. That's why I like watching teams like North Dakota and the service academies play.
Posted by Four Leaf Tayback
Member since Aug 2017
1621 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:56 am to
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I don’t think anyone is under the impression that 95 Nebraska wasn’t a great team


I still think they are probably the greatest CFB team ever. It’s hard not to say this LSU team was the greatest though because it’s still so fresh. Very interesting subject.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:57 am to
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Minnesota was good


Lemme stop you right there.

There was only one good team in he Big 10 and Clemson beat them in the semis. Bama beat Michigan like a step child after spotting them a whole half of football.

And 23-20 = 3.

It will always equal 3, and the record books will always say LSU 23, Auburn 20. Just like you will never find a team playing anywhere close to that with 95 Nebraska.

Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:59 am to
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I still think they are probably the greatest CFB team ever.


You know why I say they're the best ever?

Because going into that game, I was ready to argue Florida that year was the best ever. I was sitting down getting ready to blow that slow bunch out and win a national championship.

I sat in shock as the third quarter rolled on and it turned into borderline child abuse.

They beat me into submission as a fan and observer that night. I was never a big Nebraska fan, but they earned my respect.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37015 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:20 am to
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Which is a down year for them. They've been a top 2 team for almost a decade. Their defense this year was atrocious by Saban standards.
We don't know that they wouldn't have beaten Ohio State or Clemson, but I didn't want to get into that debate, so I just said top 4. I think with Tua, they were on the same level as Ohio State and Clemson.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:20 am to
That 95 UF team was almost as good as any in the Spurrier era. Although we did end up with a young DC named Bob Stoops after that year to help win a natty in 96
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37015 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:21 am to
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Only in 2020 can lining up and running over your arse be a gimmick.
An option offense is a "gimmick" offense.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:32 am to
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An option offense is a "gimmick" offense.


I'm 38, but thanks for making me feel like I'm 68.
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
331 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:34 am to
Guess we have different opinions. I consider the power I to be real football.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84602 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:36 am to
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An option offense is a "gimmick" offense.


Wow
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84602 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:44 am to
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And 23-20 = 3.


Well then Nebraska only beat a bad 3-8 by 14. Let’s ignore what happened during the games and only look at the final score.

Yes 2019 LSU had more close games than 1995 Nebraska. I think the difference is LSU had to play more games and against a tougher overall schedule.

I can see why people would argue Nebraska had the better season. It’s not a crazy thought. What’s silly is saying that it’s laughable that LSU had the best season.

As far as sheer talent, it’s still 2001 Miami.

Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37015 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:01 am to
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I'm 38, but thanks for making me feel like I'm 68.
I'm 32, our high school used an option offense because it was the only way a bunch of small white kids could compete with other schools
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:46 am to
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laughable that LSU had the best season.


The 1961 Alabama team went 11-0 and only gave up 25 points ALL YEAR. That's a great season.

Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:49 am to
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We don't know that they wouldn't have beaten Ohio State or Clemson, but I didn't want to get into that debate, so I just said top 4. I think with Tua, they were on the same level as Ohio State and Clemson


Oh I agree with you. I argued that even after losing to Auburn they were still #4 ad should've been int he playoff and I was ridiculed for it.

But they've won 10 games for 12 years in a row. Losing 2 games means this wasn't one of their best and their defense was decimated by injuries. This was a down year for them, even before Tua got hurt.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:50 am
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:58 am to
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laughable that LSU had the best season


Few more greatest season candidates:

1944 Army. 9-0.504 pts scored, 35 pts given up. 52.1 avg margin of victory.

1956 Oklahoma. 10-0. 466 scored, 51 against. 41. 5 avg margin of victory.

2013 Florida St. 14-0. 723 scored, 170 against. 39.5 avg. Margin of victory.

1995 Nebraska. 12-0. 638 scored, 174 against. 38.7 avg margin of victory.

1974 Oklahoma 11-0. 473 scored. 92 against. 34.6 avg margin of victory.

2005 Texas (ugh) 13-0. 652 scored. 213 against. 33.8 avg margin of victory.

Those are cherry picked and all from post 1940.

When you claim greatest season ever, you have to look at every season.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18146 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:11 am to
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Well then Nebraska only beat a bad 3-8 by 14.


And LSU trailed a 3-9 northwestern st 7-3 at the end of the 1st Qtr. Point is that there are a bunch of microstats pick and choose to make any argument.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:22 am to
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An option offense is a "gimmick" offense


Where do I start.

The modern passing game is just the option with a forward pass.

The option is 2 on 1 and making sure the ball goes where the defender doesn't. The triple option is 3 on 2 and making sure the ball goes where the defender doesn't.

The passing game is the exact same thing except you can throw a jump ball and still come down with it. If anything, the passing game is more gimmicky because you can completely screw it up and still gain yards due to an athletic play.
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